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re: French drain / property law question

Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

Zero lot line home. About 20' between houses).


Also, can someone explain this to me.

I always assumed a zero lot line meant the wall was the property line. You own from your neighbors wall your wall.
Posted by hoghunter
OverThere, US
Member since Jan 2007
1058 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:00 pm to
I don't know the actual definition of zero lot line. Mine might not be considered one technically. They're just really fricking close.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 9:01 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

I have a professional doing the installation and he's the one that said "yes let's tap in"


As a former professional doing exactly this, it would scare the shite out of me. I have no idea what the fall is or the piping size. Not to mention I am on the hook for two houses flooding.

It would make my job a lot easier though
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16484 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:02 pm to
Well if it's "on the property line" then that means he crossed the line and encroached onto your property.

It's a line with zero thickness in theory. Anything is either on your side or his, period.

I wouldn't want my neighbor tying into my drain either (would double the volume), but if he crossed over the property line then that's his screw up and should be remedied. The two really are separate issues

1. Him encroaching
2. You tying into "his" drain that he placed on your property possibly.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 9:14 pm
Posted by hoghunter
OverThere, US
Member since Jan 2007
1058 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:07 pm to
If it caused a problem it wouldn't result in something as drastic as flooding. Just standing water.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the proper place to put a French drain is in the low spot?
Both of our homes have good slope away from the house to the low spot between us. The low spot is the property line. (12" or so wide is the low spot before the slope up to each house respectively begins)
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43237 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:12 pm to
Zero lot line means your house can be all the way to the property line basically.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36233 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:45 pm to
How big of an area is he draining?
You? What size pipe did he run? It's usually 4".

A 4" line underground isn't that large and is succeptible to getting clogged up with silt, leaves, etc.

Tying into his line may not be suitable.
Posted by hoghunter
OverThere, US
Member since Jan 2007
1058 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:49 pm to
It's 4". He has 2 catch basins in his backyard and the pipe runs across the backyard and then 90's down our property line.
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7586 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

We've just hit a snag in regards to him agreeing to allow me to tap into his line.



Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15160 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:10 pm to
Laying pipe at the neighbors house is usually not a good idea. Pics of neighbors wife
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25388 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:37 pm to
Replace his 4" line that straddles both of your property lines with a 6"(or 8" inch line), tie both in and every wins. You have one pipe down the property line and he has a larger pipe to drain his yard. Cost should be relatively the same from your contractor just the increase in cost of the 4" to 6" upgrade.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18928 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:43 pm to
This is a legit solution and doesn't belong on the OT.

BTW, you just never know which way the wind will blow with this crowd. They just as easily could have focused on the neighbor for putting his drain on the property line and this would be an entirely different thread.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19016 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 11:32 pm to
quote:


French drain / property law question
Replace his 4" line that straddles both of your property lines with a 6"(or 8" inch line), tie both in and every wins. You have one pipe down the property line and he has a larger pipe to drain his yard. Cost should be relatively the same from your contractor just the increase in cost of the 4" to 6" upgrade.


Ding ding ding

If you continue in the snag negotiations offer to upgrade the pipe from the point where you plan on tieing in downstream to allow for more flow from both parties drainage areas. What this will do is reduce blockages and add capacity with minimum charge.
Posted by LetTheValleyShake
Marrero
Member since Mar 2006
1966 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 2:45 am to
quote:


My neighbor already has a French drain running down the low spot between our homes to the curb. The low spot is the property line. Because his French drain is on the property line, am I legally entitled to tap into it with the 20' of French drain coming from my backyard ?


So basically, you and your neighbor both have low spots, he got off his arse and fixed his first and now you want to piggy back off his hard work and "promise" if anything goes wrong you'll handle it. Sounds like it's not worth the trouble to him at all.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 4:34 am to
quote:

The low spot is the property line. (12" or so wide is the low spot before the slope up to each house respectively begins)


This leads me to believe you have no idea where the property line is exactly. The property line is an imperceptibly thin line, certianly not 12 inches wide.
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5528 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 5:58 am to
Add dirt to your low spot and slope it towards his yard.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36233 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 12:26 pm to
Yes
Two 4" pipes carries less water than one 6" pipe.

Personally I'd never use anything smaller than a six inch drain pipe UG. The cost for the materials are sbout the same and there's hardly any labor difference and it carries over twice the volume and is less likely to clog.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28349 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 12:39 pm to
It's ok.

Neighbor has a white rock in his garden.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28349 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 1:07 pm to

This post was edited on 3/30/16 at 3:58 pm
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