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French drain / property law question
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:07 pm
I need to run about 15-20' of French drain in my backyard parallel with the house to eliminate a low spot. Once the pipe leaves the backyard and continues in the side yard, the "low spot" on the property is the property line. (Zero lot line home. About 20' between houses).
My neighbor already has a French drain running down the low spot between our homes to the curb. The low spot is the property line. Because his French drain is on the property line, am I legally entitled to tap into it with the 20' of French drain coming from my backyard ?
My neighbor already has a French drain running down the low spot between our homes to the curb. The low spot is the property line. Because his French drain is on the property line, am I legally entitled to tap into it with the 20' of French drain coming from my backyard ?
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:09 pm to hoghunter
"Hey neighbor, instead of asking some random strangers opinions on the internet I figured I would grow some balls and ask your permission to tie into your french drain that is on our property lines. Cool? Cool. Thanks"
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:12 pm to stout
Or I could've already done that and it's not going well?
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:14 pm to hoghunter
Then there's your answer. If he is just on his side of the property line he has no legal obligation to let you tie into it. If he is on your property then you can get a survey to determine that and do WTF you want with his drain. If not, dig your own.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:18 pm to hoghunter
Tell him you are getting rid of a low spot. You would prefer to add to his french drain, if that's not feasible, you will have to bring in fill dirt to raise your lot (that will shed to his drains.) A zero lot line house, you could raise the ground elevation 4" for about 1-2k.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:22 pm to hoghunter
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This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 10:26 am
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:37 pm to Btrtigerfan
He's aware of my problem. We've just hit a snag in regards to him agreeing to allow me to tap into his line. He "just doesn't think it's a good idea" and that "I should run another line here". Here not being the low spot between our homes, instead here being on my property so I don't have to bother his line. He's just being a little difficult at the current moment and I was curious about what property law says about a French drain being on the property line. Common sense says I'm entitled to it since it's the property line. I'm just not sure if that's correct since he paid to have the line installed.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:42 pm to hoghunter
I don't blame him, I wouldn't want you cutting my drain. I would worry that connection is going to end up clogging or that major rain events would be too much.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:44 pm to hoghunter
I'm so thankful I don't live in a subdivision. 
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:48 pm to hoghunter
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Or I could've already done that and it's not going well?
Burn his house to the fricking ground then steal his drain line.
Or just run your own.
Seriously, if you are legally able to tie in and he has already denied you, what is your plan? Tell him Stout said it was cool?
Either ask for permission or just do your own thing. If I have learned anything it is best to not antagonize crazy neighbors.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:52 pm to hoghunter
If the drain is sized big enough for him only, will doubling the flow by doubling the drainage area be prudent?
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:53 pm to hoghunter
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Zero lot line home
You are a douche
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:53 pm to hoghunter
If this drain is on his property you need to stfu and figure out your own drain system. Get a survey or find the corner pins and pull a line.
People don't owe you a thing and the right move is for him to not mess with an idiot neighbor trying to tap into his existing system.
People don't owe you a thing and the right move is for him to not mess with an idiot neighbor trying to tap into his existing system.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:53 pm to Porker Face
No way I would frick with a drainage system for my neighbors yard. At least not with them knowing.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:54 pm to hoghunter
If tying into his won't properly channel all the rain water, then you need to run your own.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:55 pm to fightin tigers
Definitely don't want to create a problem. They are good neighbors. Just acting old at the moment.
In regards to me cutting and connecting to his line, I've already guaranteed him that if my line causes any issue I will immediately disconnect and repair his line. This is at no risk to him.
In regards to running my own line, it would have to go through my flower bed with is sloped away from my house. It just makes no sense to run 2 French drains parallel to one another.
And this isn't a project that I'm doing on my own. I have a professional doing the installation and he's the one that said "yes let's tap in". He could've easily said no that's a bad idea and come up with another route and made an additional 1500$ on the install. My drainage guy is going to talk to him in short time. Hopefully he will listen to the professional and we can move on.
In regards to me cutting and connecting to his line, I've already guaranteed him that if my line causes any issue I will immediately disconnect and repair his line. This is at no risk to him.
In regards to running my own line, it would have to go through my flower bed with is sloped away from my house. It just makes no sense to run 2 French drains parallel to one another.
And this isn't a project that I'm doing on my own. I have a professional doing the installation and he's the one that said "yes let's tap in". He could've easily said no that's a bad idea and come up with another route and made an additional 1500$ on the install. My drainage guy is going to talk to him in short time. Hopefully he will listen to the professional and we can move on.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:56 pm to Porker Face
quote:quote:
Zero lot line home
You are a douche
I mean, maybe he is. But what about him owning a zero lot line home makes him a douche?
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:56 pm to hoghunter
Asking to tie into someone else's French drain seems a bit imposing. It's a bit more than just tying your fence into his.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:57 pm to stout
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Then there's your answer. If he is just on his side of the property line he has no legal obligation to let you tie into it. If he is on your property then you can get a survey to determine that and do WTF you want with his drain. If not, dig your own.
Spot on
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:57 pm to Porker Face
So many badasses on the OT these days.
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