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re: Francine - Landfall in Terrebonne Parish as CAT 2 100 mph
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:25 pm to SpartanSoul
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:25 pm to SpartanSoul
Love this view. Sorry for being dense but on mobile devices how do I change the location?
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:25 pm to Oates Mustache
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You can still receive significant damage and week or longer power outages from a Cat 1. It's almost like you guys have never experienced a hurricane before.
Hoping that the cleaning out of trees and limbs from Ida makes it less bad (Mandeville). I know they’ve done a ton of cutting back and clearing along Hwy 21 west to Madisonville.
Hope and prayer to all.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:26 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Where were you?
The Westbank, so I was there too. It caught everyone off guard. It came through and everyone said no way that was a tropical storm.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:27 pm to Chad504boy
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Still sort of a big excuse when we were less than 96 hrs from landfall
How do you want them to initialize the center of a storm that doesn’t even exist yet?
You can maybe make an argument that the cone should be dynamic - wider or narrower based on confidence - but the bitching would still happen. It would turn into the boy who cried wolf if it was too wide.
Average track error @ 72 hours the last 5 years is 100 miles. In the Katrina days it was 195 miles. The cone in 2005 would have stretched from Port Lavaca TX to Grand Isle.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:27 pm to rds dc
Nothing too concerning in the 12z model data. Recon data has some signs of an improving system but pressure hasn't dropped much as it is still trying to mix out dry air. The 12z HWRF is probably overdone but highlights that there is still some higher end risk.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:27 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Where were you?
Around the corner. Cindy put a tree in my pool.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:27 pm to 3HourTour
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So this will be a nothing burger
The slightest deviation could turn that 37 back to 80. Id stay tuned
Also I just checked a couple other cities in SELA and couldn’t find anything higher than gusts 35-40 so not sure how accurate that is
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:29 pm to rds dc
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:33 pm to berrycajun
So what is the latest on how we should be feeling in BR?
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:33 pm to LSURoss
quote:It's moved east since yesterday. Watch the video posted from Tropical Tidbits a few pages back.
When will it change direction and start heading east?
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:33 pm to glassman
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Around the corner. Cindy put a tree in my pool.
Cindy caught us off guard
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:34 pm to King of New Orleans
I thought I read in this thread that the longer this thing took to get its act together the further west it would go. I guess that was incorrect.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:34 pm to Dizz
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It caught everyone off guard. It came through and everyone said no way that was a tropical storm.
agreed
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:35 pm to tgrbaitn08
Tropical Storm Francine Discussion Number 8
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL062024
1000 AM CDT Tue Sep 10 2024
Satellite imagery and data from the WSR-88D Doppler radar in
Brownsville indicate that the central core of Francine has become
better organized, with the development of a central dense overcast
and increased convective banding near the center. In addition,
reports from NOAA and Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft
show that the central pressure has fallen to around 988 mb. However,
these developments have not yet resulted an increase in wind speed,
as the aircraft-reported winds still support an intensity near
55 kt this advisory.
After meandering last night, Francine is now moving
north-northeastward with an initial motion of 020/7 kt. An
approaching mid-latitude shortwave trough over Texas should cause
the storm to turn northeastward at a faster forward speed during the
next 24-36 h, and this motion should bring the center to the
Louisiana coast sometime Wednesday afternoon or evening. After
landfall, Francine should turn more northward between the trough and
a mid-level ridge over the eastern United States. The track
guidance is generally in good agreement with this scenario. However,
there has been an eastward shift of the guidance since the last
advisory, and thus the new forecast track is also shifted eastward.
In response to this eastward shift in track and southeastern wind
radii, the hurricane warning in Louisiana was extended eastward at
12Z, and this advisory has new tropical storm warnings and watches
for the coasts of Mississippi and Alabama.
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL062024
1000 AM CDT Tue Sep 10 2024
Satellite imagery and data from the WSR-88D Doppler radar in
Brownsville indicate that the central core of Francine has become
better organized, with the development of a central dense overcast
and increased convective banding near the center. In addition,
reports from NOAA and Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft
show that the central pressure has fallen to around 988 mb. However,
these developments have not yet resulted an increase in wind speed,
as the aircraft-reported winds still support an intensity near
55 kt this advisory.
After meandering last night, Francine is now moving
north-northeastward with an initial motion of 020/7 kt. An
approaching mid-latitude shortwave trough over Texas should cause
the storm to turn northeastward at a faster forward speed during the
next 24-36 h, and this motion should bring the center to the
Louisiana coast sometime Wednesday afternoon or evening. After
landfall, Francine should turn more northward between the trough and
a mid-level ridge over the eastern United States. The track
guidance is generally in good agreement with this scenario. However,
there has been an eastward shift of the guidance since the last
advisory, and thus the new forecast track is also shifted eastward.
In response to this eastward shift in track and southeastern wind
radii, the hurricane warning in Louisiana was extended eastward at
12Z, and this advisory has new tropical storm warnings and watches
for the coasts of Mississippi and Alabama.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:35 pm to King of New Orleans
quote:Not great, but hoping for futher eastward movement with the 1:00 PM update and happy that max winds could be 90-100 at landfall instead of 100-115.
So what is the latest on how we should be feeling in BR?
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:36 pm to King of New Orleans
quote:
So what is the latest on how we should be feeling in BR?
Slightly better I'd say. Track seemingly keeps moving east and it's still way out there. Not out of the woods yet obviously. Now us LP bawws are in the eye crosshairs.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:36 pm to Mr. Hangover
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If you had to guess, should the GNO area, specifically plaquemines parish, be worried about tornados? With this storm, I’m not too concerned about the wind/rain, just terrified about tornados spawning. And yes, I did discuss this yesterday but my nerves are getting the best of me right now
The SPC now has a 5% tornado risk for the area around landfall. The main player is a warm front. Any storms in bands with room to work that react with that warm front will have a chance to produce tornadoes.
This is what the SPC has to say:
quote:
...SUMMARY... A few tornadoes are possible across the central Gulf Coast vicinity on Wednesday into Wednesday night, in association with Tropical Cyclone Francine.
...Northern Gulf Coast... Francine is forecast to become a hurricane over the northwest Gulf of Mexico, with strengthening wind fields overspreading much of the central Gulf Coast states from Wednesday afternoon into the night. Preceding this system, a stationary front will exist roughly parallel to the coast, with the more unstable/tropical moisture to the south.
As southerly winds increase east of the cyclone center, this will lift the front north as a warm front, with mid 70s F dewpoints spreading north across southern MS, AL, and the western FL Panhandle. Rapidly enlarging hodographs in the vicinity of the warm front may support a zone of tornado potential as bands of cells push northward off the Gulf of Mexico and arc northwestward. Tornado potential on the north side will be limited by the more stable air due to high pressure to the north.
We won't know specific threats until things evolve more towards landfall.
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