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re: For you youngsters; The truth about owning a home

Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:18 am to
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
14286 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:18 am to
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you should expect to drop another $5K/yr average on upkeep & maintenance.


I bought a shack so this has been pretty accurate for me. A lot of it is improvement expense though I reckon.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53279 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:19 am to
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what are you people doing to your homes?


Not performing every-so-often low-cost preventative maintenance
Posted by 0jersey
Paradise
Member since Sep 2006
1876 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:19 am to
Idk, I would say it depends on some different variables.

I think saving 1% of the home’s price per year is a good rule of thumb. In other words, a $300k house could expect an average of $3000 per year in maintenance costs over time.

Many years you will be under that, but when it’s time to get a new roof or a major appliance breaks, or HVAC needs replacement your savings will be used quickly.

You also can’t really use homeowners insurance to cover the costs either. Most home warranties will leave you wondering why you wasted money on it.

The main advantages of home ownership is as a bit of a forced savings vehicle since many people don’t save money. This only helps you if you stay in a house for a minimum 7 years, but I would think more like 10 years.

You start losing gains quickly when you buy and sell too soon or too often due to realtor fees, real estate market fluctuations, and unfavorable interest rates.
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9210 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:20 am to
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I've been in my house 12 years and yet to replace a single appliance


If you built new, get ready. Disposal & microwave in year 10, Fridge in year 13, roof & A/C in year 15. Dishwasher racks are starting to show rust, but I need another year or so out of it.

ETA: but I'm nowhere near $75K spent in maintenance and upkeep. $300/year for A/C service contract, maybe $1k - 1500 total on a couple of maintenance issues on oven, A/C and washer/dryer over 15 years.

I've probably spend $4-5K on flowerbeds over the years, most recently $2K on a total redo, but now it's got rubber mulch and river rocks, so the maintenance should be lower moving forward.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 10:25 am
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:21 am to
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Besides your mortgage & escrow,


My favorite is how the escrow can creep up as you own the home. We purchased in November 2020 and had a $1150/month payment. Government said they need more of my money so in December 2022, I have a $1275/month payment.

I guess I’ll owe $3000/month at the end of the loan at this rate.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 10:22 am
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
33090 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:21 am to
Very, very subtle "I live in a DR Horton development" brag.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27694 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:21 am to
I just spent $400 to repair the igniter on my oven this morning.

I can attest that what you say is true.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
7896 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:21 am to
Closing on my home in 45 days hopefully. I like to think it’ll be apart of my children’s inheritance. Sell it or keep it to live in but you don’t get that with renting
Posted by tigeroarz1
Winston-Salem, NC
Member since Oct 2013
3668 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:21 am to
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My house is almost 100 years old and I don't pay $5k per year in upkeep and maintenance
Same here. Built in 1918. Maybe if you average it out you spend that much. I’ve repainted the exterior one year and then nothing for a few years and then a new furnace…..and then nothing for a few.
Posted by Shunface
Lafayette County Detention Center
Member since Jan 2013
4981 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:22 am to
Do you live on a clay pit that’s a flood zone with high winds and a large termite infestation?

How the hell do you come to the conclusion ownership is a scam? $5k per year = $417 per month. Which is probably less than what the increase would be under rent. So you want to pay more overall for rent ( because it’s ya know a business and you’ve also got to cover expenses) without the benefit of owning a home.

You’re a complete fricking moron and I hope no one heeds your terrible advice.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75002 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:22 am to
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Renting sucks for the lifestyle compromises, but it’s probably more cost effective.
Ok, let’s do some math.

You drop $5k per year, which comes out to $416.67 per month on repairs and maintenance.

Let’s just go with $1000 per month rent, which is WAY lower than most places, and you already double your yearly maintenance costs before you even get to other aspects (water, electricity, etc.).

Yes, you have the mortgage, but you own the home and all of the potential long term benefits.

So, your yearly costs are >2x when you rent without any of the benefits of home owning.

Wow.

How you oldies have survived this long is astonishing.

This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 10:24 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84354 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:23 am to
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you should expect to drop another $5K/yr average on upkeep & maintenance
No

quote:

Renting sucks for the lifestyle compromises, but it’s probably more cost effective.




Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85112 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:23 am to
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Not performing every-so-often low-cost preventative maintenance


True

and I guess if you are the type to pay for a handyman for everything it can add up

I've probably saved myself thousands of dollars by watching a few YT videos
Posted by BlackPot
Member since Oct 2016
2381 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:23 am to
How old is your home that you're continually dropping 5k a year on maintenance?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83152 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:23 am to
tax advantages of ownership are pretty much gone but you can’t beat the equity that you can quickly build by owning
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281934 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:24 am to
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How you oldies have survived this long is astonishing.


I know it. So bizarre how people who learned to do things manually and instinctively have survived 60 years. Its mind blowing.

I'm sure the Zoomers will take over the world.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 10:25 am
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
37812 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:24 am to
Is this about the ac unit? Divide that 9k over the 10-12 mostly maintenance free years you should get out of it.

Unless you remodel something every year no way you should be spending that much.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83152 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:25 am to
watch it shorty!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281934 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:25 am to
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Unless you remodel something every year


I suspect this is his problem. Its an internal affair.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
172223 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:26 am to
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Eli Goldfinger


replace your unit and move on with your drama
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