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re: Flying in Twin Engine Cessna
Posted on 3/10/21 at 3:38 pm to lockthevaught
Posted on 3/10/21 at 3:38 pm to lockthevaught
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Luckily the alarm was caused by him forgetting to turn the knob to decompress the cabin. After he turned the knob, the alarm went off a few seconds later.
Did you maybe mean "pressurize" the cabin, not decompress? If you were climbing, not having the cabin pressurized would be real bad news...hypoxia, followed by passing out, followed by a really unfortunate ending.
I would've been in "Jesus Christ man, you forgot to pressurize the goddamn cabin?!" mode.
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Posted on 3/10/21 at 3:41 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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I would've been in "Jesus Christ man, you forgot to pressurize the goddamn cabin?!" mode.
what a Payne in the arse that pilot is
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:43 am to 777Tiger
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keep telling you baws, that parachute ain't doing jackshit for you, unless you are strapped into an ACES II
Yeah, ain't doing jackshit for you......
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:55 am to 777Tiger
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what a Payne in the arse that pilot is
777, why isn't cabin pressurization automatic? Why must the pilot flip a switch instead of just having a mechanical regulator that is always connected to the pressure source that automatically maintains an acceptable cabin altitude? What could be the rationale for putting that in the pilot's hands to even allow a Payne Stewart situation to occur in the first place? Wouldn't it make far more sense to have a low pressure switch in the cabin and when it goes above 10000 feet, have a blaring alarm to tell the pilot the system has failed and it's time to take it down? Now, if a checklist item is missed, you risk dying at 40,000 feet somewhere over Missouri and then plowing a field with a ghost plane in South Dakota.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 9:59 am
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:24 am to TigerstuckinMS
Not 777, but I can tell you pretty much everything you listed from the automation to the cabin altitude alert exists on modern airliners. Not all GA aircraft will have that level of technology though. I can tell you first hand the C-130H has automatic pressurization, but can absolutely de-pressurize without any warning other than hypoxia symptoms.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:26 am to lockthevaught
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Last time we flew together I sat in copilot seat....an alarm started going off on the planes dash when we we 15000 feet up. He yelled "Oh shite". The last thing I want to hear the pilot say is "Oh shite". I nearly shite my pants.
Last time I was in one of these planes the pilot (who was this older gentleman) pulled out a fricking paper map to see where he was. Didn't know whether to laugh or be nervous
ETA: Another time there was this younger pilot doing the weight math by hand (to make sure the plane wasn't too heavy) on a piece of paper and after doing the math he said "Ehh I think we'll be okay". You THINK???
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 10:28 am
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:37 am to Hazelnut
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Last time I was in one of these planes the pilot (who was this older gentleman) pulled out a fricking paper map to see where he was. Didn't know whether to laugh or be nervous
I've got no problem with that. Paper doesn't run out of batteries or fall onto the floor and shatter its screen. In my car, if my phone goes down and I don't know exactly where the nearest gas station I can stop at to get my phone running or buy a map is, that's an inconvenience, not a huge problem. At 15,000 feet, it gets a bit dicier.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 10:39 am
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:40 am to lockthevaught
Bring your parachute, no big deal.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:42 am to TigerstuckinMS
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I've got no problem with that. Paper doesn't run out of batteries or fall onto the floor and shatter its screen. In my car, if my iPad goes down and I don't know where the nearest gas station I can stop at to get my bearings is, that's an inconvenience, not a huge problem. At 15,000 feet, it gets a bit dicier.
Fair point. Yeah I wasn't really scared or anything I was moreso just blown away that this guy was using a paper map in the air. With all the instruments and gps devices in airplanes I just wasn't expecting this guy to use paper. I was also kinda impressed that he was able to use the map to get his bearings. We were flying in mountains in Idaho so it seemed kinda tricky to navigate around. But I'm not a pilot so I recognize it may not be as big of a deal as I perceived.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:44 am to TigerstuckinMS
If you're already in the nervous flyers club, maybe don't check out what happened to Helios Airways Flight 522...a Boeing 737 crashed due to the crew being incapacitated by hypoxia. A ground test was performed and the engineer failed to reset the switch from manual, so the crew never noticed that the automatic pressurization feature was disabled.
Wikipedia - Helios 522
Wikipedia - Helios 522
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:45 am to lockthevaught
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Flying in Twin Engine Cessna
Two engines are better than one.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:46 am to Hazelnut
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pulled out a fricking paper map
You should be thrilled he can read one.
Reading a map is kind of a huge deal if you're flying a small plane.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:47 am to lockthevaught
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pilot say is "Oh shite"
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alarm
quote:find a new pilot
him forgetting
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You should be thrilled he can read one.
Reading a map is kind of a huge deal if you're flying a small plane.
If he isn't instrument rated, then flying by roadways and landmarks is the only way to do it.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:41 am to LSUAlum2001
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If he isn't instrument rated, then flying by roadways and landmarks is the only way to do it.
IFR - I Fly Roads
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:33 pm to Fat Harry
Simply not true.
You literally can’t pass the private pilot test without being able to calculate the appropriate heading.
A vfr pilot can be “iPad rated” and never look at a single road or landmark and fly for years and years.
You literally can’t pass the private pilot test without being able to calculate the appropriate heading.
A vfr pilot can be “iPad rated” and never look at a single road or landmark and fly for years and years.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:39 pm to lockthevaught
I would not fly in a plane with a part time amateur pilot
But thats just me
But thats just me
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:41 pm to LSUAlum2001
quote:"It's got two because it won't fly with one"
Two engines are better than one.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 1:00 pm to 777Tiger
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aviation is awesome, I encourage more people to experience it more
45 years, I think I got my share of it.
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, it's just that you have to know the limitations of the aircraft, and more importantly, yourself
This, absolutely this.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 5/13/21 at 1:01 pm to Taxing Authority
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It's got two because it won't fly with one"
We always said it has two because there wasn't room for three.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 1:02 pm
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