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re: Flight from San Francisco forced to divert to Denver after plane's wing came apart
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:27 am to SouthEndzoneTiger
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:27 am to SouthEndzoneTiger
It’s all about liability with these issues.
Was on a US Airways flight from Phoenix to Seattle like 15 years or so ago. We had connected from our first departure point and landed in Pheonix and waited for the new passengers to load up to go to Seattle. When the plane initially landed in Phoenix, you could hear the landing gear fracture.
They checked the plane and took off anyway. Maybe 20 minutes in they realized the landing gear wasn’t going up and we were going to have to return and make an emergency landing. First though, we had to burn off the fuel to reduce the weight of the plane for when it landed since the landing gear was shot. We spent 4 hours (less time than the flight to Seattle would have taken) circling the Grand Canyon.
Was such a waste. At least if we were going to crash, they could have done it at the destination since we took more time to just go back to Phoenix.
In the end, we landed being chased by emergency vehicles and about 10 fire trucks. Landing gear cracked but held up and pilot is like “please don’t mind the trucks chasing the plane”.
Was on a US Airways flight from Phoenix to Seattle like 15 years or so ago. We had connected from our first departure point and landed in Pheonix and waited for the new passengers to load up to go to Seattle. When the plane initially landed in Phoenix, you could hear the landing gear fracture.
They checked the plane and took off anyway. Maybe 20 minutes in they realized the landing gear wasn’t going up and we were going to have to return and make an emergency landing. First though, we had to burn off the fuel to reduce the weight of the plane for when it landed since the landing gear was shot. We spent 4 hours (less time than the flight to Seattle would have taken) circling the Grand Canyon.
Was such a waste. At least if we were going to crash, they could have done it at the destination since we took more time to just go back to Phoenix.
In the end, we landed being chased by emergency vehicles and about 10 fire trucks. Landing gear cracked but held up and pilot is like “please don’t mind the trucks chasing the plane”.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:30 am to Darth_Vader
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so I threw my window open, peeked out the window and the whole leading edge of the wing was destroyed."
What a drama queen. That’s just a busted slat. I understand why the pilots diverted.. but I’d been pissed it happened. The plane could have flown on and landed with no issue.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:31 am to SouthEndzoneTiger
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To the backside of the wing? Unless I'm looking at this pic wrong, isn't that the backside of the wing?
ETA: I see now it's the front. I was looking at it wrong.
Did you not take one physics class in your life...
and learn the properties of lift?

This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 8:35 am
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:42 am to Hangover Haven
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Did you not take one physics class in your life..
I know, I know, I'm an idiot. I mistook the top of the engine bar as a winglet on the back of the wing. My eyes didn't even notice the engine at the bottom of the pic. Doesn't matter, I'm an idiot.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:47 am to Darth_Vader
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Most of the time it’s frustrating, like when they get your order wrong at a fast food joint.
I'm convinced they do it on purpose. I drive past the black run establishments to patronize those run by Indians. frick them and their lackadaisical attitudes.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:47 am to Darth_Vader
There’s been such a collapse in competence across the country.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:50 am to Horsemeat
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but we are also starting to see a result of corporations pushing short term profits over literally everything else.
Freakin THIS x1000. Corporate "efficiency" to maximize profits at the detriment of safety is creating havoc in all areas of transportation - rail, truck, and air. I've been screaming at a corporate brick wall about a few things going on in the trucking industry but absolutely nobody will listen because profit growth is the #1 priority far above all else.
Almost everything wrong with corporate America stems from the ill advised notion conjured up in the fevered imagination of one of the dumbest human beings ever to come into popular prominence based on ideas...that notion was "maximizing shareholder value" and that person was non other than dumb arse Milton Friedman. That moron started spewing that garbage in the early 70s but it really skyrocketed in the early 80's when a joke written on a cocktail napkin, demonstrable failed everywhere its ever been done, caught the attention of another notable moron and executive compensation became based on shareholder value instead of corporate value, 2 very different numbers. Shareholder value is based on the last 90 days and to hell with the next 90 days, let alone 10 years in the future. US Economic theory, specifically corporate finances, shifted from a focus on long term steady growth to one where a board of directors and a CEO were majority shareholders and under the moronic idea of maximized shareholder value those board members and CEOs did exactly what everyone knew they would do and lined their own nests at the expense of the company, its minority shareholders, its employees, its customer base and the overall nation. From 1978 through 2021 executive compensation jumped 1460%, 400 times what was normal in the past, because of the hair brained concept of maximizing shareholder value and legislation passed to legally facilitate said maximization of shareholder value under the guise of a rising tide and all of that bull shite.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:56 am to 4x4tiger
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DEI
I think it has more to do with the money bros trying to cut costs at the expense of safety than diversity, equality and inclusion lmfao
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:59 am to Darth_Vader
Oh hey, it's a company that took massive bailouts and used them for shareholder value and bonuses rather than maintenance and ground crew training!
Shocked, I tell ya - shocked
Shocked, I tell ya - shocked
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:59 am to Darth_Vader
I read Fox News but this headline was one of their worst click bait headlines.
The wing did not "come apart" but you don't find that out until deep into the story
The wing did not "come apart" but you don't find that out until deep into the story
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:06 am to Darth_Vader
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A passenger of a Boston-bound commercial flight made an unusual sighting when he looked out of the window and saw a wing of the plane falling apart midair.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:09 am to Saintsisit
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What does a possible bird strike have to do with manufacturing, and it was a 757 manufacturered around '94.
Airbus using the media to trash Boeing. If it was a bird strike, the damage wasn't that bad.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:10 am to Darth_Vader
Click bait thread title: The "wing" did not "come apart." The pictures so damage to one leading edge flap, and the flap did not "come apart."
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:26 am to Darth_Vader
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Things like this, and it’s happening more and more now, have completely erased my faith in commercial air travel.
What was your faith like in the 70s and 80s when commercial jets crashed on the reg with little/no survivors?
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:32 am to JohnnyKilroy
Meh, that’s rookie numbers damage


Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:52 am to Kjnstkmn
Flew a United Denver to SFO last week on a 757-200. That plane was old as heck. It still had the front to front facing first class seats. I haven't seen those in years. I half expected to die on that plane.
It could have been me.
It could have been me.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:55 am to Darth_Vader
Looks like it was made out of MDF...
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:56 am to jmh5724
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That’s a 30 year old plane
i get what you're saying, but the issue isnt the engineering and construction done 30 years ago, it's the upkeep, inspections, and maintenance that are done every day.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:58 am to Darth_Vader
I have about concluded that if I survive getting from the parking lot to the gate without dying from anger and frustration I have already beat the odds....
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