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re: FL teachers about to get paid.

Posted on 7/21/20 at 7:33 am to
Posted by brg0320
Member since May 2009
3295 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 7:33 am to
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No one is forcing the teachers to come to work now are they?


The worst part about it is that the teachers who don’t want to go back in the schools will end up getting their way anyway.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22346 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 7:35 am to
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The worst part about it is that the teachers who don’t want to go back in the schools will end up getting their way anyway.



And the decent teachers who don't agree with them will be crucified.
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
8101 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 7:37 am to
I guarantee that 99% of the complaining teachers have spent their time off in crowded public places
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 7:41 am to
Considering here in Louisiana online learning had no training and was a spur of the moment decision with no planning or implementation.... It was, Friday after lunch teachers are told no more in class learning, Wednesday start distance learning.
That Monday and Tuesday of the following week was essentially just giving out laptops to students or paper copies of work. So of course it was going to be horrible. Plus there was no accountability for students, everyone was passing regardless.

What I'm seeing now is that many districts that have a 1 to 1 laptop to student ratio are training teachers on what programs to use and how to use them. So all teachers and students are on the same programs along with now having penalties for students who are not doing the work or logging in.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34345 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 7:42 am to
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it’s silly to think it’ll all of sudden improve enough to be the best option in the fall.


I’ll actually push back on this argument. The online platforms that will be used are the ones in place for students who were already opting for distance learning. These platforms have a proven track record.

What’s was offered to the regular population in the spring was not effective, because teachers were asked over night to transition their classrooms to virtual learning. That was a recipe for disaster.

Personally, I had 1 student log in. He didn’t attempt any work, but just logged in to tell me hello.
Posted by Vestigial Morgan
Member since Apr 2016
3048 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 7:58 am to
I would bet 1000 American dollars that if someone with a hidden video, faked being Disney reps...who presented this lady with "As an effort to promote the reopening...you have won an all-inclusive week at WDW"


There would be ZERO thought about corona virus
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
14273 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:00 am to
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I work between 70-80 hours a week at the school.


Sounds like you need to get better at doing your job in a more efficient manner.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:03 am to
Time for DeSantis to have a Reagan Moment and order the complete dismantling of the State Teachers Union. Fire them all and hire fresh like Reagan did the Air Traffic Controllers.

Short term pain for long term gain. May as well do it while everything else has gone to Hell with the Wu Flu and make the pain that much less noticeable.
Posted by brg0320
Member since May 2009
3295 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:03 am to
Any alignment with the learning platforms will definitely make it better, I’ll give y’all that.

I used to teach HS special education, and we used a virtual public schools program. It was actually ahead of its time and easy to navigate for the kids. But...the difference was that they were in the classroom. We didn’t go one day without direct teaching, hands-on projects, or group assignments.

Any of our kids who were long term suspended or in home hospital couldn’t even follow the unit guides because so much of it required additional resources or further explanation.

I think virtual works for some subjects and some kids, but we’re certainly missing out on so much by keeping everyone at home...and that’s just the academic piece. Let’s not forget the social-emotional and absence of extra-curriculars
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45593 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:07 am to
Way more teachers sexually abuse kids every year than would die from COVID. Maybe we need to cancel school to keep our kids safe. #Innocence over lessons.
Posted by brg0320
Member since May 2009
3295 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:11 am to
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Sounds like you need to get better at doing your job in a more efficient manner.


I can respect this, as I’ve said it multiple times myself. Most of that time is direct supervision. A game day can be 18 hours depending on travel. But we can be more efficient leading up.

Ironically meetings will probably be done virtually now so staff won’t have to come in on weekends
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
14511 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:12 am to
The patron saint of all liberals, FDR, opposed unions for govt employees.
“... I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of government employees.”
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117331 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:14 am to
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Government employee unions should be illegal


Ding!

No one should be able to collectively bargain, or threaten (or employ) work stoppages for taxpayer dollars
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:21 am to
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Teachers don’t seem to love their jobs as much as they suggest.


It's always been this way. Take away summers off and tenure and the ones who are there because they genuinely want to help kids would be apparent as they'd be the only ones left.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
25170 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:27 am to
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number of coronavirus cases in the state is spiking.


We need to knock this narrative in the head. The number of cases are nearly irrelevant. It is hospitalizations, ICU beds, and really deaths that matter. We can't allow the narrative to be "no one should get sick" we will lose everything.

Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:33 am to
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I work between 70-80 hours a week at the school
Yeah, I'm calling bullshite on that my man. You could have made it a bit more believable by saying 50-60 hr weeks. That's ~12 hour days Mon-Fri. You're not working 12 hour days every day at the school Mon-Sun.
Posted by Mason Dixon Swine
West Finger
Member since Jan 2019
2919 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:37 am to
Lives over less-
ons
Posted by brg0320
Member since May 2009
3295 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:42 am to
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That's ~12 hour days Mon-Fri. You're not working 12 hour days every day at the school Mon-Sun.


I’m a football coach. See my above post about gamedays. There for a few hours Saturday morning for laundry then Sunday morning staff meeting. It’ll be less in the future by handling meetings virtually, but in the past it’s a solid 70-80 hours a week. That’s almost every HS football coach. It is what it is. It’s reality Tiger
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:44 am to
Put it this way, I hope that you're embellishing for your sake. You get paid what? $50K?

If I work your hours, I'm getting paid $130k.

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It’s reality brg0320
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 8:46 am
Posted by brg0320
Member since May 2009
3295 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:48 am to
You know football season isn’t year round don’t you? I was just talking Fall. It’s still a lot of hours year round regardless. This isn’t news for anyone who follows football. It’s a lot of hours and we aren’t paid hourly. We knew this going in.

But I get paid a living to teach (which I enjoy) and coach football. I get state employee benefits. It’s great. Can’t complain about it
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