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First word from an unopened Herculaneum scroll has been read

Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:07 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:07 pm
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Today we are announcing a major breakthrough in the Vesuvius Challenge: we have read the first word from an unopened Herculaneum scroll.

The word is "p??f??a?" which means "purple dye" or "cloths of purple."

scrollprize.org/firstletters

Congratulations to 21yo computer science student @LukeFarritor who is the first person to see this handwriting in nearly 2000 years. He has won the $40,000 First Letters prize for this world-historical achievement.

We are also awarding a $10,000 First Ink prize to @CJHandmer who was the first person to see ink and multiple letters within an unopened scroll. His work was the basis of Luke's ML model.

And @Youssef_M_Nader has won a $10,000 second-place First Letters prize for producing the clearest and most comprehensive images from inside a scroll yet.

This has been the dream of many people since the scrolls were first discovered in the 1750s. It is also the result of 20 years of work from Dr. Brent Seales and his team at EduceLab, whose years of dedicated work have made this last mile possible.

The $700,000 Vesuvius Challenge Grand Prize is now in sight. Who will claim it?


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But there's more: a few days ago, @Youssef_M_Nader, working with new segmentations from the Vesuvius Challenge segmentation team, was able to generate this image of stunning clarity and size:

This is the revolution in digital papyrology that Dr. Seales has created. Nothing like this has ever happened before and papyrology will never be the same.

The last couple of months have been intensely electric for those of us working on the Vesuvius Challenge, and if progress continues, the coming months promise a deluge of new ancient text.



This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 5:08 pm
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:09 pm to
Thought it was code for pu$$y, which is the beginning and end of all mankind’s problems.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:09 pm to
Do you want to unleash the Kraken?

Because that's how you unleash the Kraken
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:10 pm to
They just need another 10 million in grants to find the second word
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:11 pm to

If it has been read, how was it the first to be read?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:14 pm to
First lsu fans?
Posted by adamau
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:17 pm to
I combined my Sanskrit with my Latin and hashed it through my Rosetta Stone (yeah the actual rock) and I get "Purple Pussy"
Posted by Purple Spoon
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by SidetrackSilvera
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Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:24 pm to
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Thought it was code for pu$$y, which is the beginning and end of all mankind’s problems.


There is never an end to problems when it comes to that sir.
Posted by Klondikekajun
Member since Jun 2020
1406 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:55 pm to
It may have been from the Grecian ghettos….
I’m thinking it’s “Purple Drank”…
Posted by Emteein
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
3958 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:56 pm to
Probably going to turn out to be another complaint similar to the low grade copper ingots that bum Ea-Nasir provided.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:57 pm to
So if it’s unopened, how in the frick are they reading it?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 6:12 pm to
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The word is "p??f??a?"


Pussyfarts


What do I win
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
13628 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 6:13 pm to
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So if it’s unopened, how in the frick are they reading it?

I think it has been scorched and badly burned. Opening it would cause it to crumble. X-rays, MRIs, and other processes have scanned the scroll, but any legible text is layered on top of each other.

It’s a jumbled, barely legible puzzle that has to be deciphered.
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13389 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 6:14 pm to
There’s still so much that’s buried around Herculaneum. Sucks knowing that large swaths of it will likely never be excavated.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Member since Apr 2012
58785 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 6:24 pm to
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I think it has been scorched and badly burned. Opening it would cause it to crumble. X-rays, MRIs, and other processes have scanned the scroll, but any legible text is layered on top of each other.

It’s a jumbled, barely legible puzzle that has to be deciphered.


Based on age and intent, probably just an invite to the local party

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 6:26 pm to
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The word is "p??f??a?"

Amazing they had question marks back then.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 6:29 pm
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
19612 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 6:29 pm to
It says “We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty”

On a serious note this is pretty cool stuff. Can’t wait til they crack it and see what it all says
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