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re: First strike using a nuke

Posted on 7/14/17 at 7:57 pm to
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
15379 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 7:57 pm to
If the situation was dire enough, any country with the capability to deploy would do so. Countries that have them have them for a reason.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 7:59 pm to
Nuclear weapons would have great value as terrorist weapons, but smart weapons are far better for purely military objectives.
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5770 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 8:01 pm to
We talking tactical, strategic, or other nukes? Makes a difference. We have nuclear tipped torpedos that will break the back of a carrier but are no means city killers much less globally relevant.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45424 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 8:01 pm to
Worst things we have built to date.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39645 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 8:16 pm to
No world leader would ever use a nuke. It will only happen when a terrorist state in the Middle East gets nukes. And that probably will happen one day in the future
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 8:18 pm to
Fun fact: Nixon once drunkenly ordered a nuclear strike on North Korea, only for Henry Kissinger to stop the order and wait for him to awaken sober the next morning.

LINK
Posted by bubblehead26
Temecula
Member since Apr 2012
378 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 8:37 pm to
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We have nuclear tipped torpedo


Wrong... haven't been used in many many years. Closest you're going to see are nuclear tomahawks, but still not practical
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5770 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 8:40 pm to
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Wrong... haven't been used in many many years. Closest you're going to see are nuclear tomahawks, but still not practical



Okay. Point remains that not all nukes are city killers as we typically think.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 8:41 pm
Posted by Fatal Conceit
Ramblin down that dusty ole road
Member since Jun 2017
594 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 8:45 pm to
MAD Doctrine alive and well.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 8:45 pm to
Only russia ans usa have 1000's. France and china have hundreds. Uk dozens. Paki, india, israel, each some.

Any others?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122527 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 8:45 pm to
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Yeah. Ours.


I really believe, in the right situation that ignorant bastard would do it just so he be the first president since WWII to drop a nuclear bomb.
Posted by Sticky37
Member since Jun 2016
595 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:03 pm to
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Any others?


I think South Africa had one but they got rid of it. Not totally read up on that story. But I'd bet money Japan, Ukraine, and MAYBE Germany have the parts disassembled but ready to put together quickly if the need comes.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
16146 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 12:34 am to
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I think South Africa had one but they got rid of it



South Africa is the only country to have nuclear weapons and give them up. Granted they only had about 6.

Your list is correct and I think that it is in the order that each country gained nuclear weapons too. I know the top 5 are right and are the only countries that "legally" have them


And as for everybody saying "nobody would use nuclear weapons unless they were in a really bad spot", the only way the countries are gonna be in "a really bad spot" is if another country uses nuclear weapons against them.

Nuclear weapons are the reason WWIII and any other direct major conflicts between states with hasn't happened. The only case of this happening is between India and Pakistan in the late 70s iirc and it was brief and neither country had significant nuclear capabilities.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15168 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 1:55 am to
Shouldn't ever be an option, unless ok with a much quicker demise of earth. We would never have a reason to use nukes against North Korea.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48625 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 8:11 am to
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Any others?



North Korea
What nuclear weapons does North Korea have
quote:

The Washington-based Institute for Science and international Security estimated last year that North Korea had 10 to 16 nuclear weapons at the end of 2014. This was based on analysis of the country’s production of weapons-grade uranium and plutonium recovered from spent nuclear fuel. Revised estimates mean that the total could now be between 13 and 21, and the country is also believed to have four warheads.
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