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First Job Salary Negotiation.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:28 am
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:28 am
So I flew in for an interview with a large company (company A) . The interview went great and that evening I received a nice offer including great benefits. The following Monday I, unexpectedly recieved a call to set up another interview with another large corporation (company B) and yesterday I got an offer from them. The offer is about 15% higher salary and bonus w/similar benefits than company A's. I like company A more because of the location, but they (Company A) need an answer by Friday.
Whats the best way to ask them to match? And should I do this over email or phone?
tia
Whats the best way to ask them to match? And should I do this over email or phone?
tia
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:30 am to TimRiggins
Both. Phone call and follow up immediately with email for documentation.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:30 am to TimRiggins
This McDonalds/Burger King competition has gotten ruthless.
(sorry, I had to)
(sorry, I had to)
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:33 am to Prosecuted Collins
Any advice as to how to word my request? First time negotiating obviously. Research says to not give away my number but honestly I'm not playing games with company A. If they can match or get within close range of Company B they've got me. And I dont have a problem telling them Company B offered 15% higher.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:33 am to TimRiggins
Is location the only plus to Company A? Generally, these decisions have come down to quality of life for most people I know.
Negotiating salary on a first job just seems odd to me, but go for it. If I were the hiring manager, I'd tell you that you have no negotiating power, as you are completely unproven.
Negotiating salary on a first job just seems odd to me, but go for it. If I were the hiring manager, I'd tell you that you have no negotiating power, as you are completely unproven.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:34 am to TimRiggins
I've been in this spot before. The thing to remember is offer B is there and is for more money, so it's a win/win even though offer A seems better. In my experiences companies like nothing more than someone being honest with them. If they act any other way, trust me you're better off not working for them. If they can't understand that you want to put yourself in the best position possible then they'll never understand that in the future when you request a raise.
I don't see an issue doing it over the phone if they want and answer over the phone. If they did request you to come in face to face I would consider going that route, but let them know off the bat you've received another offer.
Good luck
I don't see an issue doing it over the phone if they want and answer over the phone. If they did request you to come in face to face I would consider going that route, but let them know off the bat you've received another offer.
Good luck
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:34 am to LSUfan20005
I assumed I had no reason to negotiate either, but upon further research it seems most companies expect it so they originally offer low as shite expecting negotiation.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:35 am to TimRiggins
quote:Tell them. They should appreciate your candor.
If they can match or get within close range of Company B they've got me. And I dont have a problem telling them Company B offered 15% higher.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:35 am to LSUfan20005
I assumed I had no reason to negotiate either, but upon further research it seems most companies expect it so they originally offer low as shite expecting negotiation.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:36 am to TimRiggins
Just be honest. You'll end up with a great job either way. No need to get sneaky.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:37 am to TimRiggins
Tough one.
Email probably would be best so as to allow them to deliberate without being on the spot, but may turn them off if they are a technophobe old fart that feels email correspondance is too informal a means to communicate in an job canadacy setting.
I would not expect the full 15% though. If you ask them to match, then it is obvious you like what company A offers seperate from that when you give them a chance to counter.
I would embrace that obviousness and use language that you would enjoy company A, and feel it would be a good fit for you and your career goals, but that big of a pay difference gives you pause and if they could possibly close the gap.
Say this using specifics from what you know about the company and what you learned in the interview. Not just cliched general crap.
Email probably would be best so as to allow them to deliberate without being on the spot, but may turn them off if they are a technophobe old fart that feels email correspondance is too informal a means to communicate in an job canadacy setting.
I would not expect the full 15% though. If you ask them to match, then it is obvious you like what company A offers seperate from that when you give them a chance to counter.
I would embrace that obviousness and use language that you would enjoy company A, and feel it would be a good fit for you and your career goals, but that big of a pay difference gives you pause and if they could possibly close the gap.
Say this using specifics from what you know about the company and what you learned in the interview. Not just cliched general crap.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:38 am to Prosecuted Collins
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Both. Phone call and follow up immediately with email for documentation
That works.
I'd even go as far as pretyping the email and sending it mid phone conversation.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:38 am to TimRiggins
clear eyes clear heart can't lose.
Go Permian
Go Permian
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:39 am to TimRiggins
"Shortly after I interviewed with you guys, I received an offer from another company. They offered me at ________. I believe the better opportunity for me professionally is at your company, but at this point in my life it's hard to pass up _________. Is there any chance you guys have some wiggle room and would be willing to get within that salary range?"
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:39 am to Baers Foot
Perfect.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:42 am to Baers Foot
quote:
"Shortly after I interviewed with you guys, I received an offer from another company. They offered me at ________. I believe the better opportunity for me professionally is at your company, but at this point in my life it's hard to pass up _________. Is there any chance you guys have some wiggle room and would be willing to get within that salary range?"
There you go. This isn't that difficult.
First job or not you are allowed to negotiate....ESPECIALLY if you have a competing offer.
If they really like you they will come up a bit on their offer....good luck
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:42 am to TimRiggins
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I assumed I had no reason to negotiate either, but upon further research it seems most companies expect it so they originally offer low as shite expecting negotiation.
Absolutely true. I just went through this.
Worked for company A. Company B said they would beat current company A salary. Went to HR dept and the first offer from company B was exactly the same as company A was already paying.
Negotiated twice. Got a 15% increase in pay.
Now I've been at company B now for 6 weeks and talking to my manager he told me they pretty much have to low ball just to see if they can get it.
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 10:44 am
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:44 am to TimRiggins
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:52 am to TimRiggins
If you're a millennial, take what they give you and save up for your inevitable unemployment.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:00 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
What about room to advance? Whats the ceiling of each? Insrance,retirement etc are about the as far as deductions?...drive to work in gas money?
If u do just start out by saying ur trying to do whats best for ur family and ur just laying on the table their offer and the other's...see what they say....if deductions are less and the ceiling is higher at co A...don't even bring it up....just choose A...just curious what exactly is 15 percent...how much money difference?
If u do just start out by saying ur trying to do whats best for ur family and ur just laying on the table their offer and the other's...see what they say....if deductions are less and the ceiling is higher at co A...don't even bring it up....just choose A...just curious what exactly is 15 percent...how much money difference?
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 11:03 am
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