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re: First Buc-ee's outside Texas getting sued for low gas prices

Posted on 2/5/19 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8452 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 1:03 pm to
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How though? They are all buying it from a handful of the same suppliers


The pro's and con's of having your truck-stop carry a flag or independent. If you are independent you can buy your gasoline from independent refiners at current market price, if you are carrying a flag, then you are subject to the LIFO price from your supplier, who may have millions of gallons of gasoline refined when the cost of oil was higher (or lower for that matter).
If Buc-ee's, Flying J and Luv's have their own tank farms and trucks, then they can shop-out fuel at market price, from who has the best price, not necessarily quality, and LIFO their own inventory.

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Ive had the bbq turkey a couple times


That was a poor decision.
This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 1:06 pm
Posted by DelaTiger
Maurepas
Member since Jul 2015
42 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 1:30 pm to
Reminds me of Walmart Neighborhood Market’s strategy a few years ago. Opened Neighborhood Markets in smaller cities on the outskirts of their Supercenters just long enough to shutdown local competition. Once they became the only game in town, they closed the Neighborhood Markets, which pushed business to their Supercenters.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 1:57 pm to
Those Alabama folks like them some government protection!!
Posted by offshoreangler
713, Texas
Member since Jun 2008
22526 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:10 pm to
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The only argument i could come up with here is that, by forcing lower prices on everyone, you could end up with lower quality gasoline. *



I'm not reading through 5 pages, but hopefully someone has already clued you into the fact that gas is gas.

Those trucks that deliver to gas stations load out of fungible tanks at a loading rack.

Meaning, the gas in that tank at the loading rack probably came from a refinery that isn't named whatever branded gasoline station you fill up at.

Companies don't distribute "lower quality" gasoline to gas stations...there are standards that are strictly adhered to.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4599 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:50 pm to
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infamous "Golden Corral Exit"


What did I miss? Why is it infamous now?
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4599 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 4:33 pm to
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Yeah growing up my dad would always tell us never put in the wholesale stuff. Exxon/Chevron/Texaco/etc direct only.


That's marketing at it's finest. You ever wonder why that Poulan mower looks exactly like that "premium" Husqvarna at Lowe's? Because, like all gasoline, they're made in the same places with the same equipment. The only difference is badging and some additives.
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5066 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 5:15 pm to
Cause they flooded.
Posted by dawgsjlw
shite hole with your momma
Member since Sep 2014
826 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 5:35 pm to
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Oasis is alleging that Buccees is selling gas below cost
So it is illegal for a company to sell something lower than what they paid for it?
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22012 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:50 pm to
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How many bbl/day did you process at that refinery?


Small by modern refinery standards. It processed about 50,000 bbl per day - output was mostly asphalt; very small amount of gasoline.
Posted by Babble
Member since Jan 2018
884 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:55 pm to
The reason laws like this exist is for the protection of the consumer.

Short term the low prices will help the consumer, but long-term it destroys competition. Once competition is destroyed prices go up.

Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33138 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:57 pm to
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Short term the low prices will help the consumer, but long-term it destroys competition. Once competition is destroyed prices go up.


And then new competitors pop up. The free market is amazing. You should try it
Posted by City Ham
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2018
624 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 8:02 pm to
The law is the law. If you don't like it, lobby to change it. Breaking it because you don't like it isn't how society should work.

Surprised to see so many law and order types and self-appointed constitutional law scholars changing tune over a gas station
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22012 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 8:05 pm to
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The law is the law. If you don't like it, lobby to change it. Breaking it because you don't like it isn't how society should work.


NO! Break the law - suffer a fine, then challenge the constitutionality of the law - that's how it works.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:06 pm to
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Those Alabama folks like them some government protection!! ?


This state is beyond retarded.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60617 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 10:07 pm to
Two thoughts.

Bigger can mean lower costs but over time less choice in inventory as smaller stores with better staffs and more specialized inventory is priced out of the market.

What is the tax on gas in AL? If budgets are based on a floor from tax revenue, selling at a price lower than necessary to generate the tax floor for say roads would be protected by lawmakers.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37684 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 10:12 pm to
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Bigger can mean lower costs but over time less choice in inventory as smaller stores with better staffs and more specialized inventory is priced out of the market.



Except that doesn’t happen. A new business or entrepreneur will pop up to challenge the incumbent. This fear mongering over the loss of competition is a red herring at best. There will always be an alternative or challenger to the status quo
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29979 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 10:23 pm to
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There will always be an alternative or challenger to the status quo


In a pure unregulated free market history would beg to differ. Again there is a very fine line to walk in order to balance free markets vs regulation. Fungible commodities are the most likely to produce monopolies.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 10:33 pm to
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What's the business model?

Make the gas a loss leader and sell products in the huge atore?


Yes. There's actually very little mark up on fuel. Most corner stores make their money when you walk in and buy something off the shelf.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60617 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 10:36 pm to
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A new business or entrepreneur will pop up to challenge the incumbent.


If competition is fair I might agree, but in the age of corporate multi nationals they have little thought to local markets as long as most of the money flows to their corporate offices than outflow back to the local economies.

30 years ago you had small hardware stores with employees who actually know how to help you. In a megastore good luck getting help in hardware from some clerk in sporting goods who is the lowest price the corporate folks are willing to pay.

Service and intellectual capital made America great till the 1980's and the whole "greed is good" mantra that produced excessive MBA'a at the cost of engineers, architects, and educators.
Posted by Bamasuks
Houston
Member since Aug 2014
434 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 8:30 am to
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