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re: Firearms for the home

Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:38 am to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:38 am to
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The dangerous misconceptions about shotgun patterning by folks who allege basic (or greater) experience with firearms are frightening.



as someone who is a very avid turkey hunting, I'm just going to bet that I've patterned more shotguns than 99% of this board
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:39 am to
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because shotguns are more generous and forgiving in aiming than pistols


Cool. You still have to aim them. "Point and shoot" is the only issue with what you said.

quote:

she isn't shooting from the hip


Glad to hear it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:39 am to
I'm more accurate with a shotgun than any handgun. I suck firing a handgun.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:40 am to
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I'm just going to bet that I've patterned more shotguns than 99% of this board


Probably so, but even that doesn't translate to defensive situations. And I was just commenting on the misconceptions, generally, not anything you said or even inferences I drew from your posts.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:40 am to
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Cool. You still have to aim them. "Point and shoot" is the only issue with what you said.



yes, my apologies, I forgot how technical gun people are with terms and phrases


ETA: clip
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 10:41 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:41 am to
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I'm just going to bet that I've patterned more shotguns than 99% of this board


Hunting turkeys and defending your home are quite different.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:41 am to
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did I claim it to be a super weapon? just that I trusted her to be able to hit something with it rather than a pistol

I didn't say you did.

I'm just saying that people see phrases like "just point and shoot" and they assume that a shotgun will send a wall of lead 10 ft wide with 1 BB per square inch from the muzzle out to 30 yards. There's a lot of bad info out there regarding shotguns. Just trying to dispel a few myths.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:42 am to
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Hunting turkeys and defending your home are quite different.


ugh

Did I compare the 2?

No...just strictly about the patterns of shotguns and my knowledge of them
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:42 am to
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yes, my apologies, I forgot how technical gun people are with terms and phrases



This isn't a magazine/clip discussion.

quote:

ETA: clip


Nice edit.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 10:43 am
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:42 am to
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Do you think someone will actually break into your house?
quote:

that never happens
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:43 am to
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I didn't say you did.




quote:

So not really the super weapon people claim it to be, right?


Posted by Hickok
Htown
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:44 am to
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I personally have never met someone who was a victim of someone breaking into their home while they were there.

You should not rule out you walking in on a robbery in progress, it happened to someone close to me and she has now made sure it will never happen again. It's always better to be prepared.. My suggestion would be an 870 with buck shot or a pistol of your liking, being comfortable with the gun is one of the biggest factors imo
Posted by CBLSU316
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:44 am to
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. But I personally have never met someone who was a victim of someone breaking into their home while they were there


Hi, I'm CBLU316, nice to meet you.

It wasn't exactly a break in but the circumstances led to my mom being shot and a neighbor being stabbed to death.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:44 am to
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Did I compare the 2?


Well, yeah, you kind of did. We're talking about the use of a shotgun for home defense, and you brought in that you know more about patterns of shotguns than 99% of the board. Unless you just really wanted us all to know that.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:46 am to
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Well, yeah, you kind of did.


no, I kinda didn't

it was in response to Ace's comment about common misconceptions with shotgun patterning, which I assumed was meant for me, and I was just clarifying that I'm very familiar with patterning

but this doesn't really matter
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 10:47 am
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:46 am to
quote:

Firearms for the home


Flamethrower
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:47 am to
An estimated 3.7 million burglaries occurred each year on average from 2003 to 2007. A household member was present in roughly 1 million burglar- ies and became victims of violent crimes in 266,560 burglaries.

Took that from the department of Justice incase you weren't being sarcastic.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:47 am to
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yes, my apologies, I forgot how technical gun people are with terms and phrases


Don't even start talking about a 100 yard shot.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:48 am to
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no, I kinda didn't




K.

quote:

but this doesn't really matter


I agree.
Posted by Crawdaddy
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:48 am to
Dial 911. That's all you need.

Protect and serve
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