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re: Firearms for the home

Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:13 am to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:13 am to
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Trying to get out of the way of a 120mm FSFDDU round.

Go ahead - ask him about his laser rangefinder, computerized sight and fully stabilized 120mm smoothbore.

Go ahead and ask him


I'll just say the fire control system on an M1A1 is an amazing thing to behold in action.

It actually became more accurate the faster we were moving due to the fact the suspension handled smoother at higher speeds.

But you couldn't just hop in the gunner's seat and start blasting away. You had to properly boresight it first.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96239 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:14 am to
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I have a blowgun with poison darts that were dipped in the serum of poison dart frogs from the Amazon. I coincidentally bought them on Amazon.


Me, too. Weird.

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My back up is an atlatl, but I am not that happy with my pattern on paper? One big fricking hole with no spread.


I did some research on this - that's not a bug, that's a feature. Apparently the "one big fricking hole" is the engineered outcome.

Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7236 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:15 am to
.357 mag for me but I'm thinking about the Ruger LC9S for CCW. My wife carries the LCP(.380) with the viridian green laser as her CCW and it's a great little gun. I hear people say .380 is too weak but she'll put 6 in your chest in a couple seconds and change that thought. It's super light at 9.5 oz unloaded and she's comfortable enough with it to be perfectly reliable.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:15 am to
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But you admit that you weren't using a weapon commonly employed for home defense, as that phrase is widely used, don't you?


I suppose you could use an Abrams for home defense. I'd like to see the guy brave enough to try and break in with an Abrams idling in the driveway.
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:26 am to
Hang loaded weapons on your walls throughout house for artwork.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:27 am to
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Hang loaded weapons on your walls throughout house for artwork.


Done and done.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:27 am to
12GA loaded with some Dragon Breath

Posted by AgentUtah
Member since Jul 2011
1798 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:34 am to
Desert Eagle .50AE. Got one a few weeks back and it is just fun as hell to shoot. Keep it by the bedside loaded with hollow points to ensure maximum carnage
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:37 am to
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Desert Eagle .50AE. Got one a few weeks back and it is just fun as hell to shoot. Keep it by the bedside loaded with hollow points to ensure maximum carnage


You could probably build a lightweight AR that weighs less than this behemoth.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:39 am to
i'll take my 19 round 9mm magazine capacity any day over your 7.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:51 am to
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I'm just saying that people see phrases like "just point and shoot" and they assume that a shotgun will send a wall of lead 10 ft wide with 1 BB per square inch from the muzzle out to 30 yards. There's a lot of bad info out there regarding shotguns. Just trying to dispel a few myths.


Guy on YouTube demoed the pattern of a 12 gauge sawed off to 18 inches with various types of shot at distances like 10, 20, 30 feet like what would be typical in a home encounter. The results demonstrated that at those distances a shotgun is just another rifle.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:51 am to
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What are the best ones to have for that " just in case moment" ?


Depends how far out you want to take that "just in case" situation.

Average annual burglary rates from 2003-2007 where a household member was present:

Do you own your home? 6.7 per 1,000 households

Do you have a household income >$75,000? 5.7 per 1,000 households

Are you white? 8.5 per 1,000 households

Are you married w/o kids? 3.7 per 1,000 households

Are you married with children? 7.2 per 1,000 households

Do you lock your doors and windows, requiring forcible entry? 1.5 per 1,000 households

Do you have sketchy acquaintances? 29.5% of burglaries while a household member was present were committed by an offender known to the household member. 24.2% were strangers and 46.3% were unknown, meaning the victim couldn't determine one way or the other. Furthermore, 65.1% of burglaries where a household member experienced violence were perpetuated by an offender known to the victim.

Lastly, if you do have children, you should be incredibly prudent in your gun care and you should make sure you weigh the pros and cons of that decision. Annually, 1 child dies unintentionally from a firearm in their home or vehicle for every ~180,000 households with children and a firearm. Conversely, 1 burglary-related homicide occurs annually for every ~1,375,000 households.

None of this is mean to say you should do one thing or another, but if you're serious about protecting yourself and minimizing the risks to you and your family, you should look at all the facts.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:53 am to
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i'll take my 19 round 9mm magazine capacity any day over your 7.


19 round mag? What are you shooting?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:55 am to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:57 am to
That looks big as hell for conceal carry.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:58 am to
who's talking conceal carrying?
Posted by Mr Mom
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2012
798 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:10 pm to
Mine is nearly the same gun. Only difference is mine has the silver rail on top.
Posted by CptRusty
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Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:18 pm to
glock 17 or 19, +p hollowpoints (mine are loaded with speer gold dot)

ar15 with a red dot, flashlight, and 55gr ball ammo.

if you have a shotgun, 00 buck will absolutely positively stop anything or anyone that can fit through your door, and some things that cant.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:23 pm to
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Only difference is mine has the silver rail on top.


I like the bi-tones too.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:06 pm to
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y'all are a sensitive bunch




Dude, you can give your wife a potato and tell her it's a thermonuclear weapon for all I care.
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