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re: Fire fighting needs to be rethunk

Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:34 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:34 am to
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Encased in fire resistant insulation, covered by fire retardant gypsum board....hell even most "wood floors" are fire retardant planking.



Amazing these things still catch on fire. Almost as if there's more material in a house than just flame retardant things.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47537 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:35 am to
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Houses aren't made of wood anymore. We use fire retardant gypsum board, and other resistant construction materials....add smoke detectors and fire fighters on call are overkill.



Trollin arse muthafricka you.

This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 9:36 am
Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
Jigga City
Member since Dec 2016
1408 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:36 am to
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overed by fire retardant gypsum board


Not required in residential construction.
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
37889 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:36 am to
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we don't need an engine and full crew at each location


Uh, yeah we do. I need variety for my calendar.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:37 am to
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Fire fighting needs to be rethunk


I have an idea, literally fight fire with fire. Maybe the fire in the building will run away.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:37 am to
None of what you just typed is common i residential homes.
Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
17406 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:40 am to
I’m gonna agree with the rest of the OT crew.

You dumb.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101662 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:41 am to
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I have an idea, literally fight fire with fire. Maybe the fire in the building will run away.



I mean, that's sort of what they do for forest fires. I don't want them relying on that method in my neighborhood, when a house around the block is on fire, though.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34375 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:41 am to
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f we just look at the 346,150 at an average base salary of $50k....not including medical, pension, and other expenses

346k X 50k = at least 17.3 billion vs 7 billion in damage.

Seems like they are just paramedics, we don't need an engine and full crew at each location. Just a couple guys who respond in an ambulance and if a structure is on fire they just evacuate and call a main fire crew. So it takes an extra 15 mins for them to get there, smoke damage, soot, etc ruins everything anyway.


This math is hokey as frick. You're looking at damages incurred, not damages avoided.

Also completely ignores the other benefits that they provide, like saving people from fires.
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 9:45 am
Posted by sgallo3
Dorne
Member since Sep 2008
24747 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:42 am to
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at least 17.3 billion vs 7 billion in damage.


compared to our $700 billion defense budget is this really that much for shite we actually might use?
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 9:42 am
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34375 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:43 am to
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Encased in fire resistant insulation


Posted by The Godfather
Surrounded by Assholes
Member since Mar 2005
41447 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:43 am to
Damn, I started reading before I realized it was a kujo thread
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:44 am to
I would say the waste in money is due to sending too many people and vehicles out to calls. In many places, if you cut yourself with a knife in the kitchen and call 911, they send police, ambulance, and fire truck. The fire truck is definitely not needed on that call.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30607 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:45 am to
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rethunk

WTF how do you think this is a word
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:45 am to
I had a good friend that said "if you want something to burn, call the fire department"
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69194 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:47 am to
that's not really a great thing.

"Hey, we will pay you $10 an hour, but you will work a 100 hours a week so you will be a baller"

"meh I could fix appliances and make that in 20 hours, sorry"



Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20923 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:47 am to
Considering theres 200+ Million people most sleeping in stick houses- 2,500 deaths is remarkably low.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108781 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:47 am to
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Houses aren't made of wood anymore. We use fire retardant gypsum board, and other resistant construction materials


What do you think the fire retardant gypsum board is attached to?

OP is intelligence retardant.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84304 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:48 am to
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In many places, if you cut yourself with a knife in the kitchen and call 911, they send police, ambulance, and fire truck. The fire truck is definitely not needed on that call.


They're called first responders for a reason. Plus depending on the type of call, they don't always send the truck on those calls. If the Expedition/Suburban vehicle is available, they use that.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3154 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:49 am to
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Encased in fire resistant insulation, covered by fire retardant gypsum board


Fire retardant. Not fire proof. It's purpose is to make it more difficult for a fire to start. It can help to dampen the spread at the very beginning, when the fire isn't super hot yet. Which means it gives firefighters just enough time to get there before things get out of hand. Once that fire gets hot enough, that stuff does nothing.
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