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re: Finding job after getting fired. How screwed am I?
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:29 am to TxWadingFool
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:29 am to TxWadingFool
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Everyone I know could use people, just showing up on time will put you ahead of half the work force today.
Yeah but are they gonna pay a competitive wage? Benefits?
Inflation kicking everyone's arse means that the value of good labor should rise as well.
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:30 am to sctiger07
Chances are this is never going to come up in an interview. Just prepare a good explanation. Use words like “Reduction in Force”.
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:54 am to sctiger07
Just retired after 36 years with 15 years in management. My advice is to truly find the root cause of your termination. It was due to your performance, bad leadership or a combination of the two?. Before moving forward, you need to figure out what happened and how it can be fixed. Otherwise, it will resurface.
Good luck and keep your head up. Things do happen for a reason.
Good luck and keep your head up. Things do happen for a reason.
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:14 am to sctiger07
If you can clearly explain the expectation that was placed in you and the actual performance that can be helpful if your performance was in fact good and acceptable. If that is the case you can simply say that you didn’t meet the expectations without overtly saying it was unreasonable.
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:52 am to sctiger07
Do your own gig. Look to the past how your company did things, find the best and throw out the worst stuff. Keep all those contacts and be willing to go out on your own. Once I left my full time gig and was out on my own I never looked back. 20 years ago. Took a lil while to get it going but was worth all the hours it took to make it happen. You got this
Posted on 9/7/24 at 12:19 pm to sctiger07
I have been an executive recruiter for the last twenty years. I tell candidates in this situation to keep it short and simple. It is almost impossible to verify your dismissal. Most companies will not release this type of information. Stick to the positives. You were there for two years. You performed all your tasks. I would be careful saying things like "personality conflict" or "my boss had it out for me." I would just say I was ready for a change and looking to advance and I felt this was the perfect time for me. Again..Do not dwell on this and move on.
What ever you decide to say, rehearse several times in front of the mirror. Have it down. Also have a subject change question prepared to move on from that incident. The key is to move forward with the interview. Do not allow them to ask additional questions. Do not get emotional. Take control of the conversation. If it is no big deal to you then it will not be to them. This is still a good job market and you have professional qualifications. Focus on this.
What ever you decide to say, rehearse several times in front of the mirror. Have it down. Also have a subject change question prepared to move on from that incident. The key is to move forward with the interview. Do not allow them to ask additional questions. Do not get emotional. Take control of the conversation. If it is no big deal to you then it will not be to them. This is still a good job market and you have professional qualifications. Focus on this.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:19 am to lsufaninca
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I am an auditor
So you’re an accountant? Dude you’re not going to have a problem if you live in even a medium sized small city.
Also, consider lying. Tell them you got burnt out working at a public accounting firm and wanted to focus on getting your CPA so you made some financial decisions and focused on it. You’re refreshed and ready to go.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 1:03 pm to sctiger07
All I can say is use it as learning experience. Look back and try to understand what you were doing or their lack of. Or maybe reflect on if you had a good attitude or not. I can’t tell you how many new people come into my industry and have this the world is against me attitude and seemingly don’t want to learn and then blame other people for their mistakes.
With that said, you are probably fine. I see plenty of people getting rehired by different companies all the time even despite them having sucked at the multiple jobs they have held. As long as you don’t burn bridges and have a good attitude and are likable, there are always opportunities.
With that said, you are probably fine. I see plenty of people getting rehired by different companies all the time even despite them having sucked at the multiple jobs they have held. As long as you don’t burn bridges and have a good attitude and are likable, there are always opportunities.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 1:22 pm to sctiger07
They will only call the number you give them give them chickens number, hell just say you work for Leidos at McMurdo station buy a burner cell phone with a DC number give it to a buddy to only answer it the way you want him to.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 1:35 pm to sctiger07
When one door closes , another one opens.
Usually a much better one.
Usually a much better one.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 2:11 pm to sctiger07
I'm not interested about what your actual performance was, but what were the expectations that you felt were unrealistic? What were the metrics you were graded against?
Posted on 9/8/24 at 2:24 pm to sctiger07
Be positive
Have Stats of your Performance
A Manager should not rely on past history
Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:10 pm to sctiger07
If the boss had it out for you, you should’ve been proactive and been looking all along.
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:27 pm to sctiger07
Look at the positive side: you sound young, which means you’re cheap, relatively. It’s far easier to hire a consultant or potential senior, than it is to hire a senior manager or director that costs four times as much, regardless of background.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:43 pm to sctiger07
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Feel free to come at me with any advice or criticism for that matter.
Q: are you employed now?
A: no, my previous employer and I parted ways when they decided to go in a different direction for those specific job responsibilities
they legally can not ask you anything else about this. the more you talk about it after this point, you may be digging a hole you can not get out of. but if you want to elaborate use this:
if you were too slow in your output then say you were too methodical for their timelines
if you were stubborn then say you were too rigid in your approach
if you were argumentative then say you were too passionate
if you were a weird anti-social creep then say you were not focused on team building
if you were too stupid for the work you were supposed to do then say they were improving their training programs
if you got axed because of a personal conflict then say the firm right sized the business based on group and indvidual performance
then say: but your experience there was positive and you learned a lot
then move on to something else

Posted on 9/8/24 at 5:01 pm to sctiger07
I spent a long time in professional services (Big 4 & national firms), including Internal Audit. Trust me - you are not screwed. Accounting is a really forgiving profession, mostly because of the diminishing talent pool (not enough Accounting majors and not enough kids stay in the profession beyond 2-5 year mark).
I'm no longer in the business, but my guess is you won't have too much trouble finding your next gig. However, if you want to pivot and potentially enhance your long-term prospects, I'd consider getting whatever extra hours & courses you need and sitting for the CPA (I'm assuming you don't already have your CPA). CPA is much more valuable than CIA or CISA and really not that much more difficult, especially if you have some real life experience in the profession. After getting your CPA, I'd look into pivoting to either a traditional audit & assurance or "core" tax role. Internal Audit has somewhat of a low ceiling IMHO, and working for a more mainline group gives you more opportunities to network, develop skills, and potentially transition after a few years into either industry or more-lucrative practices (M&A Due Diligence (Tax or Financial / QofE), Restructuring, International Tax, etc).
Finally, it goes without saying, but your prospects are much stronger in large markets like Houston, Dallas and Atlanta vs Louisiana. Those cities not only have big Big 4 and National firm (BDO, RSM, Grant) offices, but the "super-regional" firms are also increasing their presence in the markets. You're also going to have some no-audit firms like Ryan, Alvarez & Marsal, AlixPartners, Andersen Tax, et al which offer great opportunities.
I'm no longer in the business, but my guess is you won't have too much trouble finding your next gig. However, if you want to pivot and potentially enhance your long-term prospects, I'd consider getting whatever extra hours & courses you need and sitting for the CPA (I'm assuming you don't already have your CPA). CPA is much more valuable than CIA or CISA and really not that much more difficult, especially if you have some real life experience in the profession. After getting your CPA, I'd look into pivoting to either a traditional audit & assurance or "core" tax role. Internal Audit has somewhat of a low ceiling IMHO, and working for a more mainline group gives you more opportunities to network, develop skills, and potentially transition after a few years into either industry or more-lucrative practices (M&A Due Diligence (Tax or Financial / QofE), Restructuring, International Tax, etc).
Finally, it goes without saying, but your prospects are much stronger in large markets like Houston, Dallas and Atlanta vs Louisiana. Those cities not only have big Big 4 and National firm (BDO, RSM, Grant) offices, but the "super-regional" firms are also increasing their presence in the markets. You're also going to have some no-audit firms like Ryan, Alvarez & Marsal, AlixPartners, Andersen Tax, et al which offer great opportunities.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 6:14 pm to sctiger07
Just act like you still work there.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 6:54 pm to sctiger07
The world needs ditch diggers sport.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 7:09 pm to sctiger07
Getting fired is very hard to take. In 2021 I was laid off from a job I had for 15 years. I was pretty upset, but then was lucky to find another job that seemed to be better. I did some things that led to me getting fired. It was embarrassing. I felt like a complete loser. Having to tell my wife was tough and the 5 months that followed were rough. Both financially and emotionally. I felt like no one would hire 50yr old who got fired from another job, but I got really lucky and got an even better job. I felt like I didn't deserve it, but I am making it work. You'll make it through and come out better on the other side. just learn from every situation whether it was your own doing, or lofty expectations from a boss.
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