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re: Finding job after getting fired. How screwed am I?

Posted on 9/7/24 at 1:06 am to
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16970 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 1:06 am to
If your performance was satisfactory your boss’s boss would have fired your boss for wanting to fire you
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
4724 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 1:09 am to
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Most employers will only give date of hire, date of separation, and rate of pay. Especially big corporate ones. Anything else is asking for a lawsuit.



This is very accurate, especially if you came from a large company





Not to pick nits, but i dont think companies are legally able to disclose how much they paid you.. Or , it might actually be that they usually wont disclose that info, due to possible liability.. im not saying it’s right, im saying that you can and should EASILY fudge the amount of money you were making at your previous position, b/c odds are that the old company can’t or wont release that info in a screening call to HR….. Im not advocating that you should say in interviews that you made $250k per year when you actually only made $115k- im saying i would put my prior pay at $135k or $140k even if i was pulling down 115k previously, as an example .
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
107154 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 1:18 am to
You should have been looking long before the firing.

By the way, the level you seem to be at is not a big enough issue in today’s climate. You may want to self reflect though and maybe raise your own expectations of yourself. There’s always some validity in the reason(s) you were fired.
This post was edited on 9/7/24 at 1:21 am
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
1630 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 1:29 am to
I just returned from a workforce development conference. One of the theme was that failing is a good thing if you learn from it. Look up all the interview questions you can find about being fired. Have you someone ask you the questions and ask for honest feedback. Don’t whine, accept responsibility (even if it was your boss that was wrong) and talk about how you grew from the experience.

Good luck.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
19004 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 2:52 am to
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I’m in Metairie

I haven’t looked for a job in at least 6-8 years, so do not recall all of the recruiting firms. But hit up the recruiting firms like Robert Half, Personnel Consulting Group. Check around the job boards for some of the local CPA firms, search the LA Society of CPA’s website for postings.

I know you said you did internal audits, but even if you are not a CPA and have no desire to become one; a lot of the smaller local firms are trying to get bodies and do not necessarily require the license.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6402 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 3:48 am to
Try and find a job at a hospital or in a medical center for any kind of PR, HR, Marketing, Acct, Scheduling, Patient Advocate etc.. to hold you over. For a lot of these jobs it doesn’t matter what your degree’s in just as long as you have a degree. Then start applying for a job you want that actually pays you what you want.

When interviewing ask them not to contact your current employer(Hospital) and find a friend from a past job as a reference.

There’s almost always openings at hospitals. They are more into background checks than references. When interviewing make sure you cover any tattoos, because at a lot of medical places it’s policy to have them covered and it doesn’t matter how the interview went you won’t get the job.

The bigger the medical center the better. VA’s are the best. With the VA there are a lot opportunities to work at home. Helping Veterans find jobs is a job most people don’t want but very rewarding. There is high turnover in those types of positions. Sister in law got a job helping veteran felons find jobs for about year before she found a different job. She has a MBA
Posted by jscrims
Lost
Member since May 2008
3681 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 4:56 am to
First off, when asked in an interview, do not say anything you just said. They aren’t going to speak to your last boss.

Just say it was a job that didn’t necessarily fit what I was looking for. However, I learned some great skills such as XYZ and here is how those skills will be beneficial to your company.


I interview people regularly and the lack of interviewing skills out there is crazy. I’m talking educated people throwing their old employers under the bus or saying they had a mean boss. If you do that in an interview, what are you going to do on the job?
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
18433 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 5:20 am to
Most places only give dates of employment when references are checked.

Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
64518 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 5:29 am to
It’s a scary time, and have never been let go; but quit a couple jobs without a plan. It really worked out for me, and found a job that was better in every way.. I’ll admit, was nervous, wife was nervous, had 2 kids in College…. Just needed a change, and was lucky enough to come out smelling like a rose…
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
7047 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 5:51 am to
People get fired all the time.

Pick up a couple of worthless certificates from LinkedIn or Coursera to make it look like you are pivoting in your career.

Let everyone know you are looking for work. Keep the fired part to yourself.

It's a hard job market so make a list of what you are willing to do.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21383 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 5:59 am to
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FWIW, I am an auditor who worked for a local firm.


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I’m really worried about how I’ll fare in the job market


Why? Your field has been understaffed since the abacus

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trying to explain this.


You won’t have to as long as you remain a warm body through the winter.

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I feel totally worthless


That’s fair. I have never heard of an auditor being fired for performance. Wtf. Either way, dust yourself off, good luck. Apply to everything including remote.
Posted by Tear It Up
The Deadening
Member since May 2005
13809 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 6:06 am to
I know a handful of people that were fired for poor performance that ended up landing better jobs than the one they were fired for.

Polish up your resume and LinkedIn and get after it!
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
5723 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 6:18 am to
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My worry is that I am not an attractive person for a job if I come in and state that I got fired or messed up.



Surely, you had someone at the organization that you got along with. Use them as a reference(s.)

When the topic of why you are no longer working at your old job, just state something like, "I wanted to seek better opportunities."
Posted by 75503Tiger
Member since Sep 2015
4821 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 6:33 am to
You got managed out, big deal. You were not a fit for the organization and failed to see it. Get with a professional placement company and get an assessment of your skills. Write ten things you want most next time. When they send you leads you decide.

Most importantly, learn to sell because sales is where you make the most. With a business degree snd some independent study of selling techniques you will do fine
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
4282 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 6:37 am to
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I had one higher up that had it out for me due to setting really unrealistic expectations and me not meeting them.


From a supervisor point of view... this is BS... what the hell is a "unrealistic expectation"???...
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
137760 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 6:42 am to
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what the hell is a "unrealistic expectation"???...


You've never been giving workloads where it was impossible to finish it all in the timeline requested?
Posted by BamaAlum02
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2005
1075 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 7:47 am to
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I had one higher up that had it out for me due to setting really unrealistic expectations and me not meeting them. I expressed my concerns from the start and even some other people agreed with me.


Since you are in public accounting, I assume this means you were given production goals and didn’t meet them? Curious what the goals were and how far off you were, if you don’t mind sharing.

Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but it sounds like you were in industry (internal audit) and now you’re in public (local firm)? We’ve seen staff have a lot of difficulty coming from industry to public because the pace is much harder. You also have to be able to jump from one task to another several times a day. You may want to decide if public is right for you or if you’d rather go back to industry.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
16167 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 7:58 am to
1) reach out to people in your network.
2) you don’t need to tell your new perspective employer why you were fired. Make some shite up
3) stay positive
Posted by TJack
BR
Member since Dec 2018
3059 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 8:01 am to
ChatGPT:

I'm really sorry you're going through this—getting fired can feel like a huge blow, especially when the circumstances feel unfair. It’s important to remember that being let go doesn’t define your value or capability. Here's some practical advice for how to approach this situation:

1. **Give Yourself Time**: It’s natural to feel shaken and uncertain, but give yourself some time to process this before you jump into job hunting. That mental reset will help you present yourself more confidently later.

2. **Control the Narrative**: In interviews, how you frame your experience is crucial. You don't need to go into details about the difficult dynamics. Instead, you can say something like, "The company’s goals and my approach to achieving them didn’t align, and I felt that it was time to find an organization where my skills and perspectives were a better fit." This puts you in control of the story.

3. **Leverage Your Strengths**: Focus on your accomplishments during those two years and previous positions. Did you make processes more efficient? Did you help identify key risks? Highlight your contributions, not the circumstances around your exit.

4. **Network**: Reach out to peers, mentors, and other contacts in your industry. Internal auditing is a field where trust and relationships matter. They may help you find leads or provide recommendations, which can offset any negativity around your firing.

5. **Address Gaps Professionally**: If potential employers ask, don’t bash your old firm. You can acknowledge the misalignment without delving into negativity. Focus on what you’ve learned and how you plan to grow from it.

6. **Develop Your Skills**: Consider picking up any certifications or skills that could enhance your resume. This will help boost your confidence and make you more competitive. For instance, expanding your internal audit expertise with IT or risk management certifications can broaden your appeal.

7. **Consider a Career Coach**: If you're unsure how to navigate this situation or how to present yourself in the best light, a career coach can help refine your job-hunting strategy, resume, and interview techniques.

You're far from worthless, and this situation doesn’t dictate your future. With a clear strategy and focus on your strengths, you’ll find your footing again. Keep pushing forward.
Posted by TJack
BR
Member since Dec 2018
3059 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 8:03 am to
Also, try tax. Season is right around the corner.
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