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re: Fertility rate: 'Jaw-dropping' global crash in children being born
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:00 pm to Honest Tune
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:00 pm to Honest Tune
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People not wanting to bring children into this mess of a world.
and have to pay for the ourselves instead of the Government tit ***
FIfY
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:01 pm to RLDSC FAN
Filthy pos Libs in this country to busy being woke, gay, trans, and pedos to have children.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:01 pm to RLDSC FAN
I won’t be mad if there’s less people in the world
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:01 pm to TDsngumbo
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The leading cause of births in America is fricking
I just assumed it was the neighbor.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:02 pm to Honest Tune
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People not wanting to bring children into this mess of a world.
More like previously under-developed countries are hitting the cycle in growth where families are smaller. China's was artificially imposed upon it by a tyrannical regime, but check out other large, developing countries:
India - 5.9 children per woman (1950) to 2.2 (today)
Brazil - 6.1 to 1.7
Indonesia - peaked at 5.6 in about 1960 and is now at 2.3
Pakistan - was around 6.6 in the 1970's and is falling to 3.4 now and looks to continue to be crashing
Bangladesh - 6.9 in the 1970's to 2.0 now (holy shite)
Mexico - 6.8 to 2.1
It will take a bit for other large, heavily populated areas to hit that stage in the development cycle as well (think sub-Saharan Africa), but they'll get there pretty soon as well.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:03 pm to HempHead
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The world is selecting for the indigent and moronic.
Mike Judge is a fricking prophet.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:08 pm to RLDSC FAN
This has been going on for years. I've written numerous long posts about how countries as varied as Sweden and Japan have tried to deal with it, as well as Hungary's various efforts.
I do have a theory on how it could be fixed, or rather, why measures to incentivize having children without other societal measures won't help move the TFR upward.
There is a whole body of data being developed in fields as disparate as urban planning to medicine that hints at the way we've designed cities since the advent of the car has led to a whole host of disastrous, hidden effects that people do not realize.
All countries in general follow the Demographic Transition Model, but no one, to my knowledge, has been able to work out what the end result is going to be.
I do have a theory on how it could be fixed, or rather, why measures to incentivize having children without other societal measures won't help move the TFR upward.
There is a whole body of data being developed in fields as disparate as urban planning to medicine that hints at the way we've designed cities since the advent of the car has led to a whole host of disastrous, hidden effects that people do not realize.
All countries in general follow the Demographic Transition Model, but no one, to my knowledge, has been able to work out what the end result is going to be.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:08 pm to Mike da Tigah
The US subsidizes poor people to have babies through transfer payments and has punished working and upper class people for having children through increases in the cost of education.
We as a society are paying for that mistake in 100 different ways and it could be fixed overnight through changes in our tax code and welfare laws.
We as a society are paying for that mistake in 100 different ways and it could be fixed overnight through changes in our tax code and welfare laws.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:09 pm to RLDSC FAN
I'm gonna go frick my wife for you guys. Be back in 3 minutes.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:09 pm to HempHead
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The people who don't give a shite about it are the ones pushing out a bunch of babies now. The world is selecting for the indigent and moronic.
I read in the past - I forget the name - where there will be an eventual tipping of the scales in developed nations; whereby, the intelligent/productive people can no longer support or lead the ignorant/moronic people and the whole system comes crashing down. I think we’re at that point now...
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:10 pm to crazy4lsu
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I do have a theory on how it could be fixed, or rather, why measures to incentivize having children without other societal measures won't help move the TFR upward.
Why would we need to incentivize more humans when there are 7.5 billion of us?
If you want to social engineer you would only allow the top 5% or so of humans to procreate
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:11 pm to tide06
Internet porn combined with birth control is responsible.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:11 pm to AbuTheMonkey
While all of that is true, what people also don't seem to realize is that once a country's TFR falls below 2.1, it is extremely difficult to get it back above replacement. In the historical examples, there is only one country that was able to reverse the trend, but reversing that trend didn't have the effect of creating families, as instead it created orphans.
Sweden has probably been the most successful at trying to reach replacement rates once they fall below 2.1, with a generous child care package, but other countries, like Japan, have thrown money at the problem only to see no major rise in TFR.
Sweden has probably been the most successful at trying to reach replacement rates once they fall below 2.1, with a generous child care package, but other countries, like Japan, have thrown money at the problem only to see no major rise in TFR.
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:12 pm to RLDSC FAN
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And 23 nations - including Spain and Japan - are expected to see their populations halve by 2100.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:14 pm to Dusted
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Isn’t this good? Natural fix to “overpopulation”
Earth isnt overpopulated. Huge myth that needs to die.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:14 pm to RLDSC FAN
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In 1950, women were having an average of 4.7 children in their lifetime.
sluts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:14 pm to RLDSC FAN
Isn’t this overall a good thing in the long run? Seems that the bigger issue is well educated and overall intelligent people having children at an even lower rate.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:14 pm to YF12
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Why would we need to incentivize more humans when there are 7.5 billion of us?
You understand I’m referring to specific countries who wanted to incentivize births, right?
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:15 pm to RDOtiger
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I read in the past - I forget the name - where there will be an eventual tipping of the scales in developed nations; whereby, the intelligent/productive people can no longer support or lead the ignorant/moronic people and the whole system comes crashing down. I think we’re at that point now...
That’s when you have to get rid of democracy. Either become autocratic or have retards ruling the world. Go back to the days of monarchs.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:15 pm to crazy4lsu
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While all of that is true, what people also don't seem to realize is that once a country's TFR falls below 2.1, it is extremely difficult to get it back above replacement.
Difficult but not imposible.
Tax and cultural incentives could fix this within a generation, setting aside the abortion issue which would flip this statistic on its head within a few years (600k+ babies lost in 2016 alone...).
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