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re: Fell into a rabbit hole regarding the Gifted and Talented programs in elementary school

Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:19 pm to
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Rumors of Epstein flying out influential people to have sex with underage girls was a conspiracy theory that goes back years. Alex Jones was talking about it for a long time before it came out that it was true.


Perfect example of the kernel of truth being extrapolated into a larger conspiracy the kernel does not prove.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:21 pm to
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I don't remember ever doing any specific test, but I suppose that's what they want you to think.


I had to do the full on IQ test and psychological evaluation privately b/c I was in private school at the time and the G/T program was done via public schools. I still remember having to go back to answer a question I didn't b/c I figured out the sun setting directions.

And all the pattern recog stuff that's discussed in OP is just standard IQ testing. Anyone who has taken a lot of legit IQ tests will understand this.
Posted by SmelvinRat
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:21 pm to
All I recall as a kid in the 1970s, was that you were placed in classes with the dumb kids or the smart kids. Life was simple...
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:25 pm to
I have a freckle on my left arm and a scar on my forehead. I’m dumb as frick though.
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:29 pm to
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MK Ultra existed, but was basically a huge failure.


I don't know about others, but to me, the controversial parts surrounding MK Ultra have nothing to do with the whether or not program goals were achieved.
Posted by Jdiggy
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:29 pm to
I was in the gifted program in the 2nd grade through highschool. Took an IQ test given by a psychologist. No telepathic powers but I do have a freckle on my penis. So there’s that.
Posted by whitetiger1234
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

Perfect example of the kernel of truth being extrapolated into a larger conspiracy the kernel does not prove.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:40 pm to
We have a lot of direct, credible evidence Epstein (and Maxwell) engaged in that behavior over a long period of time. Kernel of truth.

We have some evidence that Prince Andrew may have done likewise.

There is very little direct, credible evidence to expand that into this vast conspiracy that Alex Jones ran with for years.

So people pretend "another conspiracy theory proved true" when it's not really so.
Posted by Grebe
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:44 pm to
Then I have nothing to worry about.
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:45 pm to
I was in G/T program in elementary school. Dad was in the USAF and the school was on the base. For the program, once or twice a week I would get brought to another location and vaguely remember some of the headphones/screens testing and the pink drink. But I have no firm recollection of how often those things happened or the details of the testing. I do seem to recall that the building was near the beach (we were living in Florida at the time) but there were no windows in our program rooms. Interestingly, I don’t recall other students being there at the same time I was. I’m sure they were but I’ll be damned if I can remember them.

FWIW, the bases we were stationed at usually had some spooky guys attached to them because the bases had high level communications installations. Who knows what the hell was really happening. The 70s were weird, man.
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:49 pm to
I was in GT but I guess I wasn’t gifted or talented enough to warrant CIA attention
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:56 pm to
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MK Ultra existed, but was basically a huge failure
According to who? The people who perpetrated it? As the other poster said, the fact that they tried it at all is disgusting.
quote:

So the kernel of truth that it existed is true
Huh? A kernel? It existed. It was a horrible program with horrible methodologies.

Man, you must have been professionally kicked in the balls recently if you're knighting for this shite.
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 4:02 pm
Posted by FliesByNight
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 4:05 pm to
slow down Harry Potter
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 4:07 pm to
I have that solitary freckle on my left AND right arm. It's actually more prominent on my right arm.

What does it mean??????
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 4:18 pm to
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What does it mean??????


You made it to Round 2 of the testing. Congrats?
Posted by stuckintexas
Austin & DFW
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 4:23 pm to
I was in G&T in the 80s from 2nd thru 8th grades, when I switched to home school before my freshman year. I was the only student in the program until 5th grade. My teacher was really cool, and we'd take field trips to museums or historical sites, even an archaeological dig site discovered during some work on I-49. He later became the principal of the school.

Unless he was "the guy in the suit," there were no strange visitors, no pink drink. I have a scar on my forehead, but every kid in my neighborhood remembers how I got it. Unless the government implanted the same memory in every kid in my neighborhood. I have freckles all over.

G&T was the only part of going to school that I enjoyed. One class period a day. The rest of La public education didn't do anything for me. I got my HS diploma in the mail a week after turning 16.

I'm about to be working with a panel to help write the next National Electrical Code. I guess it's worked out for me.
Posted by Jenious
Member since Apr 2020
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 4:24 pm to
Had a friend that went left on Wednesdays to go to the Gifted program back in the 1980's(87-88 if I remember correctly). Smartest kid in school, not athletic AT ALL but could play the electric guitar like a madman. I would ask him about the program and he wouldn't really talk about it. He would just say "Oh, it's boring... you wouldn't be interested".
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 4:30 pm to
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It all depends on how you define the "conspiracy theory"


One of those names on the list has no proof of existing. None of the documentation nor administrators has ever shown nor used the name The activities existed to some extent though.

Count it as real though even though the program didn't exist.
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 4:32 pm
Posted by stuckintexas
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 4:33 pm to
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He would just say "Oh, it's boring... you wouldn't be interested"

A lot had to do with the teacher. All the testing could be boring if it was days in a row, but we did some pretty fun stuff and even some shady stuff. Sometimes, he'd just ask "What do yall wanna do this week?" Best idea in the class won. One kid said he wanted to study explosions. The next day, he brought a bunch of fireworks to the school and we blew stuff up behind the baseball field.

After my first teacher became principal, the next one wasn't nearly as good. She was way more strict, and preferred we work on computer programs instead of the hands-on, interactive stuff that was far more engaging.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 4:33 pm to
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if you're knighting

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