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re: February 2019 Cold blast and southern snow discussion thread

Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
7134 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:52 pm to
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LOL! Does the guy still work in the area?


He does. He’s the most pretentious douche you will see in his position. He made fun of the people calling for any accumulation and referred to it as “Flakemegeddon” during the forecast.

Hey, but he is a “Doctor” so who are we to question him.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21151 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 2:22 pm to
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He does. He’s the most pretentious douche you will see in his position.


Yikes!

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He made fun of the people calling for any accumulation and referred to it as “Flakemegeddon” during the forecast.


Hmm, sounds like he was the one with issues...

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Hey, but he is a “Doctor” so who are we to question him.


Yeah that kinda dovetails.

Sad they think he is above reproach with his title.
Posted by Off McVoy
Member since Feb 2006
4893 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 2:35 pm to
Grant Parish schools closed tomorrow. Just called it.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8850 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 3:09 pm to
Washington Parish is out tomorrow.
Posted by lsugolfredman
Member since Jun 2005
1942 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 3:18 pm to


Latest HRRR model run is keeping BR in the game
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 3:19 pm to
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How can they be forecasting a difference of 12 degrees at that time this close to the event?



Weather apps typically are just feeding model run data into the app. So whatever model they are outputting show 47 and rain. WAFB, or any org that actually does forecasting, is taking all the runs into consideration and their own expertise to create a forecast. That's what the difference is.

Additionally, as alluded to earlier by Kosmo, the temperature gradient is going to be tight on this one. We're in the mid to upper 60s today and we are expected to get close to freezing by sunrise with cloud cover. So how the system is timed by whatever model an app is using will show big temperature differences for a given time.

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I don't know who to believe.


Here lies the challenge for public forecasters. Modest atmospheric differences can yield big impact differences in a close to freezing scenario like this and it's compounded by the cold coming it at the same time as the moisture. How to explain the forecast without overselling because it's most likely there will be no winter precip down in south Louisiana but also note the uncertainty and potential for big impacts if the cold comes in a little quicker.

Since people aren't making actual decisions based on what I post, I can go into the weeds with the models and have waffly opinions and speak in maybes. A TV Met or the NWS really shouldn't, both in terms of clarity of forecast and orgs needing solid answers to make decisions on closing. The WAFB guys are generally very good at explaining how uncertain an event might be, why it might go one way or another, and compile enough model scenarios to show the spread of possible outcomes.

ETA: For Baton Rouge and really all of south Louisiana, this is a boom or bust scenario. Cold comes early or more moisture is available, and a good inch on the ground isn't unthinkable. Comes in as currently expected, zero impact.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 3:22 pm
Posted by Off McVoy
Member since Feb 2006
4893 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 3:22 pm to
LaSalle Parish closed.
Posted by lsugolfredman
Member since Jun 2005
1942 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 3:26 pm to
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Here lies the challenge for public forecasters. Modest atmospheric differences can yield big impact differences in a close to freezing scenario like this and it's compounded by the cold coming it at the same time as the moisture. How to explain the forecast without overselling because it's most likely there will be no winter precip down in south Louisiana but also note the uncertainty and potential for big impacts if the cold comes in a little quicker.


Great line. This can be perfectly summed up with the latest rapid refresh model I just posted. The dendritic growth zone is always more efficient along the 540 boundary. As evident on that model. Accumulations can be a total surprise (or guess) on where that boundary positions itself
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 3:26 pm
Posted by SlaughterDale
Slaughter
Member since Jan 2018
551 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 3:36 pm to
Tangipahoa Parish Schools - 2 hour start time delay.
Posted by tigerfan247365
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2017
535 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 3:44 pm to


Updated Winter weather advisory now includes parishes just north of EBR
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
15916 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 3:46 pm to
HRRR liking BR more

Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147999 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 3:51 pm to
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Steven Maxwell @StevenMaxwellTV
#BREAKING: Natchitoches Parish schools will be closed tomorrow due to winter weather.
Posted by Off McVoy
Member since Feb 2006
4893 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 3:53 pm to
Avoyelles and Rapides both just called it- closing tomorrow.
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82755 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 3:56 pm to
HRRR is probably the most accurate, correct?
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
11426 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 3:58 pm to
I hate Weather Underground for absorbing Intellicast. What are others using now?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106013 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 3:58 pm to
It's a balmy 65 outside my office right now. No sign of Winter Storm Braxxtyn so far.
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82755 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 4:00 pm to
Livingston Parish Schools released a statement saying they will be open tomorrow
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106013 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 4:00 pm to
I have the NWS app on my phone. No frills and from the horse's mouth.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61691 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 4:00 pm to
Where’d that come from?
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
15916 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 4:06 pm to
winds are going to be SCREAMING out of the north

67deg at 4pm mon


33deg 6am tue


That's a plunge of 34 degrees in 14 hours
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 4:09 pm
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