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re: FDA approval for Pfizer vaccine expected to happen Monday per New York Times
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:58 pm to Cosmo
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:58 pm to Cosmo
quote:
We cancel surgeries because ICUs are full of flu? News to me
we dont over react to flu outbreaks
we dont politicize various flu treatments
we dont misdiagnose the flu either
I wonder why
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:58 pm to Tiger985
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Happened at UAB as recently as 2018.
Need more examples?
Yes please
Examples of entire states cancelling surgeries multiple times in a year
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:01 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:wat
and now the feds and the pharm companies are on the hook legally, I no longer get the hesitancy
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:01 pm to Cosmo
quote:
Yes please
Examples of entire states cancelling surgeries multiple times in a year
Keep your goalposts in one place please.
It happened across multiple hospital systems in 2018 in multiple states.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:02 pm to liz18lsu
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Fine, then since it won't kill me, I am selfish and I intend to kill fat & old people. Dude, no vaccine has ever been MANDATED. You don't see the problem here?
Obfuscation by deflection is not a good look in a (semi) serious thread. I said none of that.
If you have ever used the idea of "moving the goal posts" in a COVID thread consider this position.
Your point was about the time to get a BL for vaccines, I countered that I assume since you changed the subject you did not have a rebuttal.
The employee mandate of vaccines is a different issue and I will be glad to engage on the point both legally and philosophically if you care to.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:03 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I have no problem whatsoever with someone who doesn’t want a vaccine that’s under an emergency authorization. But once it’s gotten full FDA approval, and now the feds and the pharm companies are on the hook legally, I no longer get the hesitancy.
The current version of the FDA is no more trustworthy than the CIA. The vaccine was getting FDA approval whether 100% got it, 0% got it, or everyone died. And the same courts that favor DACA, block travel bans, say Obamacare is constitutional, won't hear a case on election fraud, etc ain't gonna hold Big Pharma accountable for deaths from a vaccine they are part of a conspiracy with.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:03 pm to supatigah
Remember that time everyone freaked out because only 75% of adults received the flu vaccine?
Just kidding, there's never been that many people get the flu vax, and nobody gives a shite how many people get it.
Just kidding, there's never been that many people get the flu vax, and nobody gives a shite how many people get it.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:03 pm to Tiger985
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It happened across multiple hospital systems in 2018 in multiple states.
Link?
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:04 pm to pigskinGod
quote:Don't act like anything a troll like me says on a message board will sway you one way or the other. Your mind was made up from the beginning.
Clowns like him dont realize they're just making people trust it less.
quote:Probably wasn't worth it for me personally, either, but getting vaccinated was probably the bare minimum that I could do to play my part in ending this.
And its not even that I dont trust the vaccine. I just dont think its worth it for me.
quote:How weak and childish to be this way. Seriously, this is how children behave.
The more they push the more people will push back.
quote:Yeah right.
If they just shut up and distributed statistics and info I guarantee more people would get vaccinated.
quote:
They've already got all the weak minded that succumb to peer pressure. Now they need to let the others convince themselves with facts and statistics.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:04 pm to Tiger985
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Happened at UAB as recently as 2018.
Need more examples?
:rimshot:
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:05 pm to GRTiger
quote:So?
Not getting the covid vaccine doesn't crack the top 100 of selfish acts humans do on a regular basis.
quote:Read into my words what you want, but I can assure you that it's all laughs and no tears over here.
Stop being such a dramatic, weeping loser. Jesus.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:06 pm to GRTiger
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What's the benefit to constantly worrying about the vaccination status of random people you don't know? Besides the virtue points of course.
tbf im not worrying about your status, im dumbfounded with yall nonsense and misinformation. yall out here arguing that that risk to benefit doesn't favor the vaccine is hilarious. get the shot or dont IDGAF, but the vax fear propaganda is just gross by now.
quote:
"Daddy said we could play outside if you get this thing you don't really need" is literally the only reason to focus on this. And we know that daddy is lying to you. Or most of us know anyway.
well you could focus on the mountain of data that widely supports risk/benefit for vaccination over non-vax.
the vaccine being effective is objective and related health risk/benefits like death/complications, full recovery etc are what we were discussing.... not risks/benefits like being grounded from by the gov from going inside restaurants.
I dont think the gov should be mandating stuff like that, nor should vaxes be mandatory, but they are objectively better medical decisions despite how you may feel politically.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:07 pm to Obtuse1
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Obtuse1
Do you use use "incarceration" in place of "jail time"? Big words don't make you smarter, sir.
Apologies for going off-topic, please re-engage me.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:08 pm to Cosmo
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Link?
5 states mentioned in this one article alone in this one year, 2018.
2018 Flu outbreak
The 2017-2018 influenza epidemic is sending people to hospitals and urgent-care centers in every state, and medical centers are responding with extraordinary measures: asking staff to work overtime, setting up triage tents, restricting friends and family visits and canceling elective surgeries, to name a few.
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:10 pm to pigskinGod
quote:I'm not sure how to be more clear about it, or why it even needs to be explained. No vaccine works 100%, and for that reason we rely on one another to get vaccinated. Vaccines work not only at the individual level, but also at the community level. That's just how it is.
Can you explain how its selfish to not get vaccinated when you can get it to protect yourself?
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:10 pm to Korkstand
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Don't act like anything a troll like me says on a message board will sway you one way or the other. Your mind was made up from the beginning.
No it wasnt. I was against the vaccines for anyone that wasnt elderly or had health defects but came around to it a little and convinced both my parents to get it. Due to facts and statistics. And you're kidding yourself if you dont think the radical push for everyone to be vaccinated for something that 99% of the total population and 99.99% of young people have no reason to worry over doesnt turn people off. When people who have given reason after reason to distrust them push something on others then a lot of people are going to naturally say "frick you." It may not be your intention but you painting people into a corner and their natural instincts are to push back.
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:11 pm to Tiger985
Nowhere in there does it say outpatient surgeries were cancelled
That is BY FAR the biggest money maker for hospitals
You think they are doing it to push the conspiracy?
That is BY FAR the biggest money maker for hospitals
You think they are doing it to push the conspiracy?
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:11 pm to liz18lsu
There are plenty of try hard “smart dudes” on here but Obtuse isn’t one
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:12 pm to AMS
I have no doubts that the vaccine is effective, and I'm glad it's working.
I'm not spreading any disinformation either.
Just to confirm, you believe we need to be 100% vaccinated, and that will be what allows us to get back to normal, correct?
I'm not spreading any disinformation either.
Just to confirm, you believe we need to be 100% vaccinated, and that will be what allows us to get back to normal, correct?
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:13 pm to GRTiger
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Just to confirm, you believe we need to be 100% vaccinated, and that will be what allows us to get back to normal, correct?
No.
Just all the fat and or unhealthy people
Which is like 80% of our population over 18
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