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re: FDA approval for Pfizer vaccine expected to happen Monday per New York Times
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:43 pm to liz18lsu
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:43 pm to liz18lsu
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Because testing takes fricking TIME.
When coming to this conclusion (the inference being the Pfizer vaccine BL approval is rushed) did you determine or find a mean or average time from pre-trial positivity to final BL approval for vaccines in the US?
If you did this did you further remove from the Pfizer time the time it took to assemble groups for the tests and further reduce the Pfizer time by the reduction as a result of the acceptance of the expedited review?
If you did not determine these more representative times then you are parroting or projecting feels.
The unusual speed of BL approval has almost everything to do with the chunks of time where little if anything is happening in the trial and approval process not being present.
The simple fact is the approval process has more data and scrutiny for these three vaccines than any other vaccines in history.
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:46 pm to liz18lsu
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Seriously, mandating this BS (getting the vaccine to stay employed) is the most draconian shite I have ever seen.
Not much of a student of history are you? Probably graduated Magna in your Hyperbole Ph.D. program though.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:46 pm to CarRamrod
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lol. Loom at the average time it takes for medicine to get full FDA approval...... years sometimes decades.
So it’s impossible to streamline something in an emergency pandemic? Oh, that’s right…you don’t know because this has never happened in our lifetime. Silly me.
It’s like people never been in a situation where things can change. Even at my little rinky dink job, there are things called EOrders. Or Emergency orders. Where things just can’t wait. Must be done NOW. Things of that sort. It’s possible. Who woulda thunk it ?
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:46 pm to stout
quote:
it”
I personally know several people like myself that are taking the wait-and-see approach. To myself and them, FDA approval or not doesn't make a difference in our decision.
exactly
change Covid to the Flu in this thread and laugh at the irony
we have had Flu vaccines for decades, it is far more common and deadly and yet none of the hysteria around getting a flu shot like this
you are questioning their dogma disguised as their logic. but you do not feel the sense of urgency that they do, and they dont understand why
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:47 pm to stout
quote:Pretty sure we found that out after the trials produced efficacy results that were less than 100%.
Hell, we just found out like 3 weeks ago that you can still get Covid once vaccinated.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:49 pm to Korkstand
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Sure hope that everyone with this mindset remembers how selfish they were when they need someone else to do something in the future.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:49 pm to supatigah
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Flu, it is far more common and deadly
We cancel surgeries because ICUs are full of flu? News to me
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:51 pm to Prominentwon
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emergency pandemic
This is the definition of pandemic:
quote:
Pandemic: An epidemic (a sudden outbreak) that becomes very widespread and affects a whole region, a continent, or the world due to a susceptible population. By definition, a true pandemic causes a high degree of mortality (death)
This is not a true pandemic
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:52 pm to Prominentwon
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Even at my little rinky dink job, there are things called EOrders. Or Wmergency orders. Where things just can’t wait. Must be done NOW. Things of that sort. It’s possible. Who woulda thunk it ?
Do they involve you putting an MRNA vaccine into your body or the federal government? Slightly different then, right? Who woulda thunk it.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:52 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:Didn't say anything about anyone's right to choose, I just said I hope you remember that choice.
You’re putting your sense of security over their right to choose what they feel is best for them.
quote:Nah.
Incredibly selfish of you.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:52 pm to Cosmo
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We cancel surgeries because ICUs are full of flu? News to me
I don’t remember hospitals filling up with flu patients dying on ventilators either. Weird.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:53 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Do they involve you putting an MRNA vaccine into your body or the federal government? Slightly different then, right? Who woulda thunk it.
So it’s IMPOSSIBLE to streamline an emergency vaccine/booster? Is that what you’re telling me?
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:54 pm to Klark Kent
Klark next time you ask me to bring you some Billy’s or Rabideaux’s I’m gonna remember your stance on this 
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:54 pm to Prominentwon
dogma is a stubborn thing
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:54 pm to Obtuse1
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Obtuse1
Fine, then since it won't kill me, I am selfish and I intend to kill fat & old people. Dude, no vaccine has ever been MANDATED. You don't see the problem here?
Edited: For Corporate jobs
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:56 pm to Korkstand
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Korkstand
Can you explain how its selfish to not get vaccinated when you can get it to protect yourself? It has nothing to do with selfishness
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:56 pm to pigskinGod
quote:And by extension those around you, as well. Do people really not know how viruses work?
The vaccine protects yourself.
quote:How does the fact that everyone has a choice mean the choice can't be selfish? I replied to a poster who said he wasn't getting the vaccine because covid won't hurt him.
Everyone has the choice to get it so it has nothing to do with selfishness
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:57 pm to Cosmo
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We cancel surgeries because ICUs are full of flu? News to me
Happened at UAB as recently as 2018.
Need more examples?
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:58 pm to liz18lsu
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I don't need anyone to do anything for me.
Ok. quote:Hm, in my view doing what's best for me and only me is weakness.
Relying on society and others is weakness.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:58 pm to Korkstand
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And by extension those around you, as well. Do people really not know how viruses work?
Then they can get vaccinated. You can get the vaccine if you want to be protected. Selfishness doesnt come into play in that scenario at all
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