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re: FDA approval for Pfizer vaccine expected to happen Monday per New York Times

Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:50 pm to
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Don’t take Advil then pussy


I personally don't take medication for any number of mild ailments. I skip advil when I have a headache, cold medicine when I have congestion or a sore throat.

Do you find this strange?
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:51 pm to
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The height of irony is all of these small government “conservatives” whining about wanting more gov red tape and the ability to hire a Plaintiff’s attorney if need be


Well when the government is a dick hair from forcing you to take something that not even the government has approved of, I’d be a little hesitant too and I don’t think requiring the same entity to take some accountability for any negative outcomes from something they are pert near requiring you to take is outlandish.

If we lived in a true small government society no one would have given a shite about Corona and we would still be living our lives mostly as we see fit. But you know, Orange Man Bad Tweets.
Posted by pigskinGod
Member since Sep 2020
1573 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:54 pm to
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Honestly I think we’re scraping the bottom of the barrel of anti-vax arguments at this point. Probably most are just scared of the needle. It doesn’t hurt that bad.

Why do yall ignore that some people just have no risk of dying due to covid? My demographic has complications from the flu (1.8 in 100k) at a higher rate than covid (1.5 in 100k and all of these were overweight) and I dont get the flu vax either. I got my mom and dad to take the vax. Some people are just looking at the risk factors and basing their decision on that.

ETA: I'd love for whoever keeps downvoting taking risk factors into account to try and convince me thats not reasonable
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 8:07 pm
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:58 pm to
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Some of you old, fat, pack a day losers will still look for reasons not to get it.


All of that is a choice and I don't mind anyone making their own choices.

But, this FDA argument all along has been very flimsy. Shouldn't even move the needle. The shite we consume daily that isn't FDA approved is sincerely endless. From Gummy Vites to Glucosamine.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12832 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:59 pm to
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Relying on something that isn’t FDA approved huh? Or don’t any of you realize vitamins and supplements don’t require any kind of approval?

I was being sarcastic
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:59 pm to
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I didn't discourage my 65 year old mother from getting it. To me, the potential benefit for her at the time outweighed the risk when all factors were considered.

I am being obtuse for the so-called 22-year-old athlete when considering the data we currently have. I can't come to any logical conclusion for such a person to take the vaccine.


using data we currently have, one can logically conclude that from a pure risk:benefit.

agree covid is very low risk for the young athlete, but the vaccine is still just much less amount of risk. There is no benefit for not vaccinating, but vaccinating offers decreased likelihood to contract, decreased severity and shortened duration of disease.

but you're claiming a logical choice based on weighing risks and benefits. but suggesting the vaccine is worse a risk/benefit than risking covid, that is plainly not supported by data. there is statistically significant protection and insignificant risk related to the vax regardless of your opinion. I agree the 22 athlete will probably be fine, but its still more logical to vax than not. You are correct when saying you are being obtuse for not seeing their logic.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131564 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:59 pm to
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Plenty, but you can start with Gardasil


Lol

Nice job parroting PT talking points

Gardasil is still on market and is safe
Posted by pigskinGod
Member since Sep 2020
1573 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:03 pm to
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There is no benefit for not vaccinating

Yes there is. Potential long term side effects that wont be known until years down the road. If you have no risk of dying from covid this is a very logical reason to wait. Its not a great reason for someone thats 60 and overweight but for a 22 year old athlete thats an extremely logical reason.
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:06 pm to
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Potential long term side effects that wont be known until years down the road.


You think the earth is flat too
Posted by pigskinGod
Member since Sep 2020
1573 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:07 pm to
I dont. I just have zero risk of complications due to covid so I'll wait and see. Why ignore the rest of my post where I said thats only logical if you already have no risk of dying from covid? There's no reason at all for me to take the vaccine. Its sad that a doctor is pushing for everyone to get vaccinated instead of assessing their situation and making an informed decision. Pathetic really
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 8:10 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131564 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:09 pm to
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I just have zero risk of complications due to covid so I'll wait and see.


False

You have 0.01% risk from covid

You have 0.0001% risk from vacc

But do what you want sheep

2 orders of magnitude is a LOT
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 8:11 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30475 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:09 pm to
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I just have zero risk of complications due to covid


This is an illogical part of your cost-benefit analysis because it is based on an incorrect and unknowable fact.
Posted by pigskinGod
Member since Sep 2020
1573 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:12 pm to
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FDA approval for Pfizer vaccine expected to happen Monday per New York Times
quote:
I just have zero risk of complications due to covid so I'll wait and see.


False

You have 0.01% risk from covid

You have 0.0001% risk from vacc

But do what you want sheep

2 orders of magnitude is a LOT



You're the only sheep. All of those in that 0.01% were overweight or had other co-morbidities. Im not and dont. And its 0.0015%. Its another decimal down bud.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71104 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:12 pm to
What's the benefit to constantly worrying about the vaccination status of random people you don't know? Besides the virtue points of course.

"Daddy said we could play outside if you get this thing you don't really need" is literally the only reason to focus on this. And we know that daddy is lying to you. Or most of us know anyway.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131564 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:12 pm to
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All of those in that 0.01% were overweight or had other co-morbidities.


Nope. Try again

Sorry you are scared of a needle
Posted by pigskinGod
Member since Sep 2020
1573 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:13 pm to
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This is an illogical part of your cost-benefit analysis because it is based on an incorrect and unknowable fact.

Obviously im exaggerating a little but show me ONE person in their mid 20s that died that wasnt overweight or had other co-morbidities. I havent seen a single one.
Posted by pigskinGod
Member since Sep 2020
1573 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:14 pm to
Give me proof then. I just got a tetanus shot a few weeks ago so you're wrong again
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:15 pm to
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Does this include the booster?

The booster is just the same shot that people have already gotten twice before.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131564 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:16 pm to
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Give me proof then.


Proof of what?
Posted by pigskinGod
Member since Sep 2020
1573 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:17 pm to
Show me one example of someone 18-29 that died of covid and wasnt overweight or had other co-morbidities. Tell me why I should get vaccinated for something that is less likely to harm me than the flu when I dont get the flu vax either. Im open to being persuaded. I just havent seen any of you make a good argument

ETA: considering you have continued to post and failed to provide an example I will assume that's because you can't and you know my decision not to get vaccinated because the demographic I am in is at the lowest risk of covid is completely justified. Its hilarious these types of posts only receive downvotes. None of you can give me a good reason that I should get vaccinated. Its almost like the smart thing to do depends on an individual's age and health status.
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 10:01 pm
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