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Posted on 1/25/23 at 3:55 pm to LNCHBOX
i'm fine with them being found guilty because i hate fat people, especially fat people who feel the need to be shirtless all the time
Posted on 1/25/23 at 3:58 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:you are claiming they had no right to stand their...and all they had to do was leave.
Which freedom of theirs do you believe I'm trampling on?
They could have left. so could the other guy. Im unsure what you are argueing.... 2 trash have guns... 1 trash threatened to kill them multiple times, 2 trash say they will protect themselves, 1 trash does something you cant really see, 2 trash shoot their guns....
This isnt as cut and dry as you are trying to make it.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 3:58 pm to ninthward
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both get life
Jr might not have long based on that mole under his arm. That thing surely has an expiration date on it.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 3:59 pm to CarRamrod
I remember this and how tense that video was when it was posted here. I'm torn on this one. If you made me choose a side I guess I'd choose the dad/son, at least initially and especially if the deceased dude had a bat (saw that mentioned).
The confidence that some people have that they won't get shot, while goading an unreasonably calm man with a gun, is insane. Old man was calm as frick (on the surface) and was all business when he said he would kill that dude, and yet he kept screaming and antagonizing him. The son acted like an idiot, but the old man was in full business mode.
I imagine they'll end up seeing jail time, but it seems like self-defense or stand your ground is fairly easily in play here. I'm interested to see what comes of it with this (finally!) going to court.
The confidence that some people have that they won't get shot, while goading an unreasonably calm man with a gun, is insane. Old man was calm as frick (on the surface) and was all business when he said he would kill that dude, and yet he kept screaming and antagonizing him. The son acted like an idiot, but the old man was in full business mode.
I imagine they'll end up seeing jail time, but it seems like self-defense or stand your ground is fairly easily in play here. I'm interested to see what comes of it with this (finally!) going to court.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:00 pm to BearCrocs
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Anyone with gun training in self defense situations are taught to ALWAYS deescalate first, get away from the threat if you can, and as a last resort, defend your life if you feel your life is in immediate danger (or the life of someone else). Those two knuckleheads had every opportunity to walk away (they are not defending there own property) and wanted to play cops.
None of which has anything to do with the legal standard.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:01 pm to CarRamrod
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you are claiming they had no right to stand their...and all they had to do was leave.
They can stand there, never said they couldn't.
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They could have left. so could the other guy.
I've never said otherwise.
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m unsure what you are argueing.... 2 trash have guns... 1 trash threatened to kill them multiple times, 2 trash say they will protect themselves, 1 trash does something you cant really see, 2 trash shoot their guns....
This isnt as cut and dry as you are trying to make it.
My argument is they escalated by bringing weapons into a situation none were in. Those chose to not deescalate. They shot before that bat was thrown. That is all clear as day on the video.
IF you see justified self defense in that situation, we aren't ever agreeing. But you can kiss my arse implying I'm not for freedom.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:01 pm to LNCHBOX
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Fatdad shot before the baseball bat was thrown. He's guilty of something.
Arming yourself with a weapon and approaching close to someone will be enough to justify self defense shooting.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:03 pm to Havoc
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Arming yourself with a weapon and approaching close to someone will be enough to justify self defense shooting.
So using this logic, the dead guy was defending himself since he was unarmed at the beginning of this confrontation.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:03 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
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You don’t need to give the guy first swing before you can justifiably defend yourself.
Exactly. I’m surprised so many people here have this wrong. I suppose they’re shaded by the F/S’s utter trashiness.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:04 pm to The Boat
Dad passed on the bad, pear shaped body genes.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:04 pm to LNCHBOX
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So using this logic, the dead guy was defending himself since he was unarmed at the beginning of this confrontation.
Wrong.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:05 pm to Havoc
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Wrong
How?
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:06 pm to The Boat
Dudes would not last 5 min in pickle ball.
Should be min requirement to own a gun.
Should be min requirement to own a gun.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:07 pm to LNCHBOX
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That is all clear as day on the video.
quote:you dont know what the situation was before the video. I just watch and you dont know what happenes right before the shits as the video was filming the ground.
My argument is they escalated by bringing weapons into a situation none were in. Those chose to not deescalate.
As the other guy here said... by law you do not have to deescalate. They is taught in carry classes because doing so will make your case easier than this one.
quote:again it is not that simple. And i think in Texas it is more relaxed that other states. You are just trying to make this clear cut and its not.
IF you see justified self defense in that situation,
quote:well you are automatically trying to place blame on some trashy people because they are just standing there.
But you can kiss my arse implying I'm not for freedom.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:09 pm to The Boat
Threatening to kill two guys that have guns was a bold move.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:09 pm to LNCHBOX
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Wrong
How?
you cant claim self defense because someone is brandishing a gun.... Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:10 pm to CarRamrod
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you cant claim self defense because someone is brandishing a gun....
They did a bit more than just brandish a gun, but whatever
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:10 pm to CarRamrod
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because they are just standing there.
Seriously, frick off with this
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:12 pm to LNCHBOX
Querstion - did baw grab a bat after they confronted him w guns?
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