re: Father/Son dumpster shooting of neighbor murder trial. Dad GUILTY. Son NOT GUILTY

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Anyone with gun training in self defense situations are taught to ALWAYS deescalate first, get away from the threat if you can, and as a last resort, defend your life if you feel your life is in immediate danger (or the life of someone else).

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As it should be. People saying the victim egged them on, but they clearly have had issues before. The whole reason he was upset is because they pulled a gun on him in front of his kid. That made him act irrational. It should not matter if he "egged" them on after. They could have easily avoided all of this. The shooter even said, "take your swing." Therefore encouraging him to give him a reason.

Screw these two POS. I'm tired of self defense being you can intimidate anyone with your guns and if they do anything remotely questionable you can just end their life and get away with it. Just my opinion.

I’ve got a not guilty on this one. We have a verified hot head armed with a deadly weapon (baseball bat) making deadly threats. A reasonable person could fear for their life and respond accordingly while standing their ground on what is perceived to be common property between the neighbors.

Sure all parties are guilty of stupidity but I struggle to ring up murder here

They’re both going down

I am interested to see how this will turn out...

While I do not support the stupidity here... The big guy that was killed was threatening them.. "Imma Kill You" he said about 10 times...

also he picked up a big stick and threw at the old man, you can see him duck in the video...

But, with that said... I foresee a GUN CONTROL type jury that will use this as a gun control example...

Where was this again? Texas???

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If you tell me multiple times that you are going to kill me, I will believe you, and defend myself accordingly.
They are all stupid arse humans, but I think I would vote "not guilty"

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Exactly. The video does not show it but the deceased appeared to attack the father. So we have "I'm going to kill you, goes to attack and then gets shot. That's a FAFO case if I ever saw on.

Things to consider is... what happened prior to the video starting? What are the gun laws/self defense laws of Texas?

Also, I think I read the guy who got shot had some sort of "Intermittent explosive disorder", which from the web reads:

Intermittent explosive disorder involves repeated, sudden episodes of impulsive, aggressive, violent behavior or angry verbal outbursts in which you react grossly out of proportion to the situation. Road rage, domestic abuse, throwing or breaking objects, or other temper tantrums may be signs of intermittent explosive disorder.

From what I read he threatened, I think, a mail carrier and the mail stopped delivering to his home.

I find it really really odd that you go to confront a neighbor, and out of the blue you carry loaded weapons. I suspect there was some sort of history. I mean, (as an example) if your neighbor dumped an old dishwasher on your property, would you go to his home to confront him carrying a loaded gun? I wouldn't.

As far as if guilty? Yeah, it will depend on quite a bit.

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Sure all parties are guilty of stupidity but I struggle to ring up murder here

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Same. The aggressor made a bad move. Of course all 3 are idiots though.

What's the latest in the trial? Who is ahead? Who is losing?

Why did they need the guns? They look tough as frick without the shirts

Fry both of the fat fricks at the same time

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Aaron had that bat in his hand. He went to swing it at that dude, that dude f—ing pulled his trigger.”

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Self defense.

Those of you saying they shouldn't have been there or shouldnt have had guns can go frick yourselves until you are badass enough to confront a crazy bat wielding psycopath with your bare hands and have it caught on video.