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re: Fat Shaming: As a Society We Need to Do it More

Posted on 8/23/18 at 6:46 am to
Posted by someLSUdoosh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2016
882 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 6:46 am to
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I don't think we need to "fat shame" in the sense of pointing and ridiculing, but we should be beating it into people's heads how horrible for your health it is to be fat. I mean a full on campaign.

The last thing we should do is to celebrate fat people like our society seems to be drifting towards. That's fricking dangerous.




Body positivity is the worst campaign ive seen that people have come up with today. No you should not be ok with your body when you are spilling out of your pants.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22496 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 6:52 am to
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big guy, about 280. And I don't eat that much really.

How tall, big guy.

Your portions of carb intake tell all. All three meals are carb-laden...cereal, pasta, bread. Carbs are sugar. Sugar is calories. Calories are fat builders. Your quantities are vague... some cereal, small portion of...shrimp, pasta (and dressing?j, 6 (inch?) subway sandwich (kind?) Every night? No clear detail on in-betweens, what you drink, etc. Friend, this pattern of eating is not helping you, in case you might want to control your weight, before it really gets out of hand.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7632 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 6:52 am to
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The human body simply doesn't work like that. You likely aren't paying attention to their portion size, or you only see them around cheat meals.



So everyone's metabolism is exactly the same and some people don't burn calories easier than others. I mean every single medical professional in the world disagrees with you, but you said it on the OT it must be true.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43296 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 6:54 am to
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NATidefan


I hear you. I'm fat too. My weight loss journey has been long, and well documented on here. I've come up with every excuse imaginable and still do. You gotta stop worrying about what everyone else can or can't do and focus on what you can do.
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 6:55 am to
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Fat Shaming: As a Society We Need to Do it More by NyCaLa
So much attack/defensiveness in this terrible thread. It's easy for the fit to be smug (like me...6'0", 170, 63y/o) and equate changing eating habits with quitting smoking.

But, it's NOT the same
Lol at this post. I used to be 210 and I’m 155 now. You want to know what I did? Put the fork down. Yea, it took a little motivation and time, but from 210 I got down to 155 in about 6 months.

Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16167 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 6:55 am to
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Cereal, pasta, subway sandwiches? That's a lot of your daily intake from worthless grains which are essentially just sugar


Exactly, and that illustrates the problem. He thinks that's a healthy diet, and many people would.
This post was edited on 8/23/18 at 7:01 am
Posted by The Goat
Right here, Chief
Member since Nov 2006
2799 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 6:57 am to
I like it when a chick with a plump can spreads those cheeks and drops the All You can Eat Buffet that she had for lunch right on my chest.

“Fat bottomed girls, you make the rockin World go round”
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72051 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:02 am to
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The human body simply doesn't work like that. You likely aren't paying attention to their portion size, or you only see them around cheat meals.
This. Scruffy was going to say the same thing.

Scruffy probably eats only 1-1.5 meals a day, unless there is some big meal or his special lady friend cooks.

Cup of coffee in the morning, snack or possibly full lunch, and then usually a small dinner.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30124 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:02 am to
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Everywhere you look you see whales everywhere.


We need more grammar shaming as well.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:04 am to
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And drive an hour there and back. With a thirty minute lunch and getting ready for work etc. It leaves me with about two free hours a day when all is said and done.



you're just making excuses. i have a 70 mile commute to work at 6 and i still make sure to at least run a mile a day. even if you walk it that is 20 minutes out of your day. hell, bring your kids and make it a family event.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72051 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:07 am to
You really only need 45 mins of exercise a day.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35994 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:09 am to
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The human body simply doesn't work like that. You likely aren't paying attention to their portion size, or you only see them around cheat meals. 


Lmao, no I don't. I eat with them fairly regularly. They pile there plate up, eat it in front of me, and go back for more. Lol

And I know what I ate today was fairly carb heavy but that's not everyday.



Like today I'm probably gonna have a boiled egg for breakfast, a turkey sandwich for lunch, and some leftover homemade stir fry (chicken, carrots, broccoli, water chestnuts, onions, bell peppers, no rice) for dinner.
This post was edited on 8/23/18 at 7:10 am
Posted by Spotswoode
Mount Rushmore
Member since Aug 2018
1594 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:09 am to
Gorgeous face. I wouldn't fat shame her, shoot her, or bang her.
Posted by Pahnew
Member since Apr 2008
5372 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:10 am to
Fat bitches need love too Craig
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11581 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:10 am to
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Majority of you people don’t know how hard it is to lose weight


Try gaining weight when your naturally slim and then talk to me. You can stop eating, but you can only eat so much.
Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
3694 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:14 am to
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As soon as my kids are in college, I will explode.


What? Why? This is the time in ones life you want to be in decent shape/health. You get to start doing things for you. Travel, hobbies, etc...
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84065 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:16 am to
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So everyone's metabolism is exactly the same and some people don't burn calories easier than others


Good thing I didn't say something so ridiculous.

ETA: and an MD agrees with me like 3 posts later
This post was edited on 8/23/18 at 7:17 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162209 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:16 am to
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Exactly, and that illustrates the problem. He thinks that's a healthy diet, and many people would.



Misinformation is very powerful and very dangerous

And is one of the major reasons for the obesity explosion in the U.S.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14845 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:17 am to
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How bout some helpful example there, Fatass



You could google “hormones and body fat” or “how to feed your hormones” or “effect of carbohydrates and dietary fat on hormones” or any combination of those words to do tour own research.

My body responds well to the Keto diet. I eat alot of fat moderate protein and very few carbs (mostly fiber) but this still means eating quite a bit of green veggies. Like the guy said, most people misunderstand keto and think it’s all meat. It’s mostly fat. Testosterone is made from healthy cholesterol. Cholesterol is made from fat. Ergo, you need to eat (the right kind of) fat to make testosterone. Your body converts carbohydrates into glucose (sugar) which requires insulin to metabolize. When insulin is up, testosterone and hgh is down. Ergo, a diet high in carbs will lower fat-burning hormones.

LINK

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The Hormone Hypothesis

To understand what makes the hormone hypothesis of obesity so intriguing, it helps to grasp where the energy-balance hypothesis falls short. The idea that obesity is caused by consuming more calories than we expend supposedly stems from the first law of thermodynamics, which merely states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. As applied to biology, it means that energy consumed by an organism has to be either converted to a useful form (metabolized), excreted or stored. Thus, if we take in more calories than we expend or excrete, the excess has to be stored, which means that we get fatter and heavier. So far, so obvious. But this law tells us nothing about why we take in more calories than we expend, nor does it tell us why the excess gets stored as fat. And it is these “why” questions that need to be answered.
Specifically, why do fat cells accumulate fat molecules to excess? This is a biological question, not a physics one. Why are those fat molecules not metabolized instead to generate energy or heat? And why do fat cells take up excessive fat in some areas of the body but not others? Saying that they do so because excess calories are consumed is not a meaningful answer.
Answering these questions leads to consideration of the role that hormones—insulin, in particular—play in stimulating fat accumulation in different cells. Insulin is secreted in response to a type of carbohydrate called glucose. When the amount of glucose rises in the blood—as happens after eating a carbohydrate-rich meal—the pancreas secretes more insulin, which works to keep the blood glucose level from getting dangerously high. Insulin tells muscle, organ and even fat cells to take up the glucose and use it for fuel. It also tells fat cells to store fat—including fat from the meal—for later use. As long as insulin levels remain high, fat cells retain fat, and the other cells preferentially burn glucose (and not fat) for energy.
The main dietary sources of glucose are starches, grains and sugars. (In the absence of carbohydrates, the liver will synthesize glucose from protein.) The more easily digestible the carbohydrates, the greater and quicker the rise in blood glucose. (Fiber and fat in foods slow the process.) Thus, a diet rich in refined grains and starches will prompt greater insulin secretion than a diet that is not. Sugars—such as sucrose and high-fructose corn syrup—may play a key role because they also contain significant amounts of a carbohydrate called fructose, which is metabolized mostly by liver cells. Though not definitive, research suggests that high amounts of fructose may be an important cause of “insulin resistance.” When cells are insulin-resistant, more insulin is required to control blood glucose. The result, according to the hormone hypothesis, is an ever greater proportion of the day that insulin in the blood is elevated, causing fat to accumulate in fat cells rather than being used to fuel the body. As little as 10 or 20 calories stored as excess fat each day can lead over decades to obesity.
The hormone hypothesis suggests that the only way to prevent this downward spiral from happening, and to reverse it when it does, is to avoid the sugars and carbohydrates that work to raise insulin levels. Then the body will naturally tap its store of fat to burn for fuel. The switch from carbohydrate burning to fat burning, so the logic goes, might occur even if the total number of calories consumed remains unchanged. Cells burn the fat because hormones are effectively telling them to do so; the body's energy expenditure increases as a result. To lose excess body fat, according to this view, carbohydrates must be restricted and replaced, ideally with fat, which does not stimulate insulin secretion.
This alternative hypothesis of obesity implies that the ongoing worldwide epidemics of obesity and type 2 diabetes (which stems to great extent from insulin resistance) are largely driven by the grains and sugars in our diets. It also implies that the first step in solving these crises is to avoid sugars and limit consumption of starchy vegetables and grains, not worrying about how much we are eating and exercising.

Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35994 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:17 am to
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You really only need 45 mins of exercise a day.



I know, I have about 2-3 hours of spare time a day. I also work nights and don't get off til 3 in the morning. Get home at 4. Eat a bite. Watch a bout an hour of TV. Wake the kids up, cook them breakfast cause my wife leaves for work at 6. Go over algebra homework with the eighth grader and multiplication tables with the 3rd grader. Pack my lunch. Now it's my bed time so I can get up to do it again in 6 hours.
This post was edited on 8/23/18 at 7:18 am
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