re: Family of Max Gruver files lawsuit seeking $25 million in damages against LSU, fraternity

Did they do toxicology for other drugs during the autopsy? Not accusing, but most people think that Ben Wynn was taking something other than booze. Not trying to sound crass, but hazing with hard liquor is a bad idea. Do it with beer, and they puke it up before they die.

I feel for the parents. Their kid died. I think that this is like most cases, where you sue everyone remotely connected to the incident. I expect LSU to settle for single digit millions.

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Definitely not 25 mill if he was stupid enough to drink that much everclear.

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So what ever happened to good ol' personal responsibility?

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RIP Murphy's ?

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Bennett Murphy was fortyish and already looking for an exit strategy from running a college bar. It wouldn't have lasted too much longer anyway. He runs a dude ranch in New Mexico now. True story.

The Title IX move is brilliant.


There will be a settlement for a very high amount that is not disclosed.

Combined the fraternity and LSU will counter at 5.5 and they will settle at 11.5 or so.

I wonder who LSU will retain as counsel for this matter.

Why LSU and not just the frat? I was involved in Greek life at LSU, but I totally support the parents suing the fraternity.

Does LSU have a sort of umbrella insurance policy here, or do they self insure since suing LSU is basically suing the whole state of Louisiana, financially speaking.

I guess it’s similar to a medical malpractice suit. If the doctor screws up, you name the doctor, their practice, the hospital, the hospital system, etc. in the initial suit.

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A handful of idiots made a poor decision and should pay, not the entire Greek system and not the entire university.

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Good luck with that. The knives are out and all the family business is about to get settled, to borrow a line from The Godfather.

Ironic how LSU's Greek system is milder than a lot of other schools but the tragedies always seem to happen here.

Courts are stacked with fraternity and sorority members. Good luck.

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Maybe the parents should have taught their son not to drink himself unconscious.

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I understand young adults that age are still susceptible to peer pressure, but you’re right.

This could happen to anyone’s kid, even if they’re a “good kid,” and I despise greedy litigiousness. I think the enormous sum is unreasonable and it will be whittled down a lot.

I believe the parents want to win for satisfaction that LSU is being punished, not as a payday. No sum will replace their son. I also don’t disagree with holding any university reasonably accountable for profound misbehavior among fraternity leadership on university property. If it is systemic and well known problem that is routinely ignored- LSU accountability should increase.

I’m not convinced Max’s parents don’t accept that their child made poor choices. I went to LSU too, a close friend was in frat leadership and lived in their house. They had huge hedonistic parties and yeah it was fun. In retrospect, the mornings after there was always too many people still unconscious with vomit on their clothes. I have always had zero respect for men who drink enough to anethesize themselves enough to sleep in vomit on the kitchen floor.

They acted like it was funny, and underage binge drinking was rampant. The university knows. Everyone knows. I don’t want LSU to pay 25 million dollars- but they need to own up to ignoring the pervasive party til you puke fraternity dumbassery on their campus.