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re: Family of Max Gruver files lawsuit seeking $25 million in damages against LSU, fraternity
Posted on 8/17/18 at 12:12 am to Joehat
Posted on 8/17/18 at 12:12 am to Joehat
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What would you put as the value of your own son?
Very few people even insure their lives for $1 million, much less $25 million.
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Posted on 8/17/18 at 12:14 am to crimsonsaint
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Maybe I’m misremembering but didn’t the fraternity cut the guy, kick him out, whatever, and the mom threatened them to let him back in?
The man went through rush and no fraternity picked him up. That is hard to imagine that NO ONE would pledge the man.
His mom called Greek Affairs and asked/begged/whatever for them (Greek Affairs) to find a place for him.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 12:15 am to Alltheway Tigers!
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Forced? That will be interesting to prove in court.
Don’t they have some video? I may be mistaken but IIRC the story is that they kept handing him more strong drinks when he was already beyond pickled, barely coherent, and telling him to drink.
Pretty fricked up thing to do to a severely drunk person.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 12:35 am to Alltheway Tigers!
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The man went through rush and no fraternity picked him up. That is hard to imagine that NO ONE would pledge the man.
His mom called Greek Affairs and asked/begged/whatever for them (Greek Affairs) to find a place for him.
Mom has always come off as a trouble maker. She wants to see everything associated to LSU burn.
I didn’t know he wasn’t picked up by anyone. I had heard the cut and let back after a call from mom rumor. I hope all this shite comes out in the trial. If it’s true that his mom kept sticking her nose in there then I can see why they’d dislike him and target him.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 12:40 am to OKellsBells
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Don’t they have some video? I may be mistaken but IIRC the story is that they kept handing him more strong drinks when he was already beyond pickled, barely coherent, and telling him to drink.
Pretty fricked up thing to do to a severely drunk person.
I don't know if there is video.
The toxicology report listed THC in Max's system. Rumor has it that Max was into his pot..really into it.
How this plays out in court is interesting, if it makes it that far. I belive..totally my thoughts...that Max's family wrote down a number to settle. LSU looked at it and said "no." Max's family threaten a lawsuit. LSU called the hand.
LSU doesn't want the bad publicity. Max's family does not want Max's drug issues to be in the public. The amount of drugs in his system and found in his dorm room could damage the case.
Eventually, I believe the parties will settle for an undisclosed amount out of court. My guess is between $5 to $10 million.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 1:01 am to Alltheway Tigers!
I agree with you on pretty much everything except the relevance of THC in his system. That’s a non issue. He could eat three pounds of weed and be better off at making decisions than he was well before his BAC was up to .495.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 1:35 am to Xenophon
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Courts are stacked with fraternity and sorority members. Good luck.
Who is on the jury is all that matters, if this goes to court and there is even a single college graduate on the jury much less someone that was in a fraternity or sorority it would be unusual. A jury of your peers rarely occurs in real life which is why the school will settle.
This post was edited on 8/17/18 at 1:42 am
Posted on 8/17/18 at 4:31 am to slackster
Dad failed at teaching his son personal responsibility which includes drinking responsible.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 4:36 am to JDogg33
Of course this lawsuit doesn't sit over well with yall tigerdrops. 
If this same scenario happened at a different school, say Bama or Auburn, yall tiger droppings would fricking love this lawsuit. But since it is against LSU, yall tiger droppings are against it.
If this same scenario happened at a different school, say Bama or Auburn, yall tiger droppings would fricking love this lawsuit. But since it is against LSU, yall tiger droppings are against it.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 4:40 am to slackster
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"The reality at LSU is that male students like Max face the risk of serious injury and death when they seek educational benefits and opportunities offered through LSU's Greek letter fraternity system, and the risk to male students at LSU is likely far worse than the television portrayals," according to the lawsuit.
Yeah.
Your kid begged you to pay for the fees for the educational opportunities.
This piece makes it sound like they push for Greek life, which is bullshite unless something has changed in the decade since I’d been there.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 5:12 am to Volvagia
frick everybody especially fraternities.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 5:15 am to Pico de Gallo
Just like the AD at Maryland who says he didn’t know, it was his job to know. Same goes for F King
Posted on 8/17/18 at 5:39 am to HenryParsons
I know this sounds harsh, and I feel for the kid and his family that he died because of one bad decision.
However, it was just that, his decision, to drink what any 18-year-old knows is beyond a safe amount.
The parents should get nothing. This wasn't LSUs or the frat's fault. It was Gruver's own poor judgement that killed him.
And just for the record, I was a GDI at LSU, so no frat allegiance although I don't have anything against those who enjoy Greek life.
However, it was just that, his decision, to drink what any 18-year-old knows is beyond a safe amount.
The parents should get nothing. This wasn't LSUs or the frat's fault. It was Gruver's own poor judgement that killed him.
And just for the record, I was a GDI at LSU, so no frat allegiance although I don't have anything against those who enjoy Greek life.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 6:33 am to ForeverEllisHugh
He was hazed. Many have been hazed. Some have been harmed. LSU always told them not to haze after someone was harmed. They did little to monitor, or enforce their no hazing policy. This is why they will pay.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 6:51 am to jmarto1
Plaintiffs attorneys don't bill by the hour
Posted on 8/17/18 at 6:55 am to JetsetNuggs
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It's a tragedy their son passed, but taking down a whole university shouldn't be the punishment for a group of frat tools taking hazing way too far.
Yep. If the entire fraternity system is responsible, what does this say about our educational institutions in general?
Posted on 8/17/18 at 7:19 am to anc
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LSU needs to write a check and avoid trial on this one.
The liability insurance company(s) will be cutting the checks to the family.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 7:43 am to TigerNlc
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The guy chose to participate as an adult in stupid shite
No 18 year old is truly an adult. They are still kids in a man's body. Their brain isn't fully developed to adult status until mid 20's. Like it or not, that's the truth.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 7:50 am to Alltheway Tigers!
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Very few people even insure their lives for $1 million, much less $25 million.
I'd imagine punitive damages are a large part of that number.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 7:53 am to JetsetNuggs
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I'm going to come off as extremely harsh, but this is a bit much. It's a tragedy their son passed, but taking down a whole university shouldn't be the punishment for a group of frat tools taking hazing way too far. Go after every one of those dorks. They definitely earned that.
Many in our beloved country want to completely eliminate personal responsibility and instead want to have more institutional control. This is a slippery slope. Individual freedom comes with a price, and we cannot have it both ways. That said, as a dad myself, I feel much compassion and empathy for the young man’s parents.
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