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re: Everyone supports some type of gun control

Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:21 pm to
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36124 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:21 pm to
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Well let’s let Adam Lanza have a fricking 50 cal and grenades then.


50 cal is pretty heavy to carry into a school and pipe bombs can be made at home.

This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 5:23 pm
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9657 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:21 pm to
We just discussed this sabes. They already can't keep up with background checks. If the govt can't make a decision in (I think it's 10 days - correct me if that's wrong) the person gets their firearm. If you enact this crap, gun sales will go through the roof and there will be a lot of people that shouldn't get guns that will by default because of the increased volume.

I don't get what's wrong with the current system - just enforce the laws and regulations that are already on the books. People like you and your restorative justice bullshite are the real problem. Put the assholes with illegal firearms away for a long time. Things will change.
Posted by DomincDecoco
of no fixed abode
Member since Oct 2018
10906 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:22 pm to
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Stricter background checks on obviously unstable people


stricter in what way?
Define unstable people...

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certain people should have their guns actively taken away.


define which and what would constitute that

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(not bubba wanted to kill a deer)


you refering to hunters with this comment? so guns used to hunt with are ok???
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:22 pm to
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If it's in the inventory of our military, it should be also available to the general public. PERIOD.
The general public having missiles seems like a bad idea, but you do you
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 5:23 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261518 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:22 pm to
Ah, the ole circular leftist dance. "You don't like socialism, what about the police force?"

Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
4799 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:22 pm to
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No one believes fully auto weapons should be legal,
I believe this.

If you want to go back to the original intent of the 2A, it's to permit a citizen militia to provide a meaningful check upon the government's power. Obviously, the framers could not conceive of stinger missiles or nuclear warheads, but their intent was to place average citizens on equal footing with the government in terms of weaponry. On that basis, the 2A should protect rights of citizens to own/possess/use the biggest/baddest weapons out there.
Posted by DomincDecoco
of no fixed abode
Member since Oct 2018
10906 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:23 pm to
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enforce the laws and regulations that are already on the books. People like you and your restorative justice bullshite are the real problem. Put the assholes with illegal firearms away for a long time. Things will change.




this is true but will never happen unfortunately...defund the police, racism, lower the bar to a growing group of society that doenst value established societal norms
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
42227 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:24 pm to
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so you support no type of gun control measures at all? Your first post was about keeping them out of the hands of criminals… so, which is it?


Federal law states felons forfeit their rights to own guns - they should not have them by law. If you are not a felon, you still have your right to own a gun.

I’m not really sure what’s so unclear about that. Any other regulations for gun control that are made are going to be for citizens who can legally own guns - and that is not right.

Legal/illegal = absolutes

My first post was asking you to suggest regulations that will keep guns out of the hands of the people who shouldn’t legally have them anyway.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:26 pm to
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Federal law states felons forfeit their rights to own guns - they should not have them by law

SuperSaint knows this all too well.
Posted by DomincDecoco
of no fixed abode
Member since Oct 2018
10906 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:27 pm to


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My first post was asking you to suggest regulations that will keep guns out of the hands of the people who shouldn’t legally have them anyway.


I am waiting for some answers as well, not just emotional crying and wininig about doing "something!"

Again:
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sabes que



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Stricter background checks on obviously unstable people



stricter in what way?
Define unstable people...

quote:
certain people should have their guns actively taken away.


define which and what would constitute that

quote:
(not bubba wanted to kill a deer)



you refering to hunters with this comment? so guns used to hunt with are ok???
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 5:28 pm
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9657 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:28 pm to
I could buy a 50 cal right now. They are heavy, expensive and the ammo isn't cheap, either. I still think it would be fun to shoot one at some point. I have no use for one, but some people enjoy shooting them. Can you illustrate a single major crime in American history that was committed with a 50 cal?
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167497 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:28 pm to
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No one believes fully auto weapons should be legal


They are legal, though. They are just really expensive due to scarcity and also require a special tax stamp.

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no one believes you should have one of those huge two hand guns mounted in the back of a F150 like the cartels


A handgun? Do you mean a Ma deuce? Those are legal too and you can mount it if you wish. Demo Ranch on Youtube is currently working on mounting one on top of his Toyota truck.

It's always the idiots that have no idea what is and isn't legal that think they speak for everyone yet have no idea WTF they are talking about. You are that idiot.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
15358 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:30 pm to
Any and all guns should be perfectly legal. Law enforcement doesn’t protect the citizens so it’s up to each person to defend themselves. There are so many guns in circulation that criminals will always have access to them.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
42227 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:30 pm to
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Can you illustrate a single major crime in American history that was committed with a 50 cal?

Isn’t that what injured Scott on Kentucky Ballistics?
(Not that that’s a crime)
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167497 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:33 pm to
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Well let’s let Adam Lanza have a fricking 50 cal


Anyone can buy a 50 cal

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and grenades then.




IIRC you can also legally own grenades. That is if you can find any to buy. Again, they are like fully auto weapons and are expensive due to scarcity in the civilian market

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Grenades are considered to be Destructive Devices under the National Firearms Act, and require a $200 tax stamp and other standard NFA requirements to acquire them
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
13028 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:34 pm to
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No one believes fully auto weapons should be legal


Rich people can legally buy pre-ban full autos because they're fricking expensive since all the legislation did was cut supply

All it affected was the poor, just like the NFA
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 5:36 pm
Posted by TeaParty
Member since May 2022
935 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:35 pm to
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Everyone supports some type of gun control



Not eveyone
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114038 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:41 pm to
Serious question for anyone who can answer. Does Baton Rouge and/or New Orleans have a gun unit within their police force? A unit who strictly goes after illegal guns.. illegal gun dealers?
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167497 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:41 pm to
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Is that the type of gun where it takes two hands to shoot it and it’s mounted on the back of a pick up truck? Like the cartels use to bully the government into letting El Chapo’s son out of prison? Imagine the devastation some insane incel could cause with that?




They are legal to own, dummy

LINK
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9657 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:42 pm to
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They are legal, though. They are just really expensive due to scarcity and also require a special tax stamp.


A friend of a friend has an FFL He owns a few fully auto guns legally.
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