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re: Ever seen a "leisure time" charge at a restaurant?

Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:46 am to
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:46 am to
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You know you're going to pay taxes on every purchase you make in the US and somehow you're surprised every time?


I'm failing to see the word "surprised" in the following sentence.

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Someone cannot charge you for something you never agreed to pay for.
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
18814 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:46 am to
$400 for six people. That is ridiculous unless your work is paying for it. No way I am dropping that kind of money on my own to hangout with my coworkers
Posted by BitBuster
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:58 am to
All the guys in here taking the passive aggressive move of reducing the tip when speaking to the manager and getting it removed is the right play. All reducing the tip does is screw the staff, not the owner who is enforcing the policy. But yeah, go ahead and punish the people who have nothing to do with it.
Posted by Larry_Hotdogs
Texas
Member since Jun 2019
1363 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:05 am to
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passive aggressive

Passive aggressive would be me leaving a downvote and not telling you about it.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
64886 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:06 am to
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All the guys in here taking the passive aggressive move of reducing the tip when speaking to the manager and getting it removed is the right play. All reducing the tip does is screw the staff, not the owner who is enforcing the policy. But yeah, go ahead and punish the people who have nothing to do with it.


That’s because you use logic to make decisions. Many in this thread make decisions based upon emotion.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57570 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:20 am to
I’ve never been a let me talk to the manager guy but I would have called him over to explain why I would never be back
Posted by BrianFantana
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2012
475 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:20 am to
It seems like the waiter didn't explain why the charge was on there, and the policy wasn't discussed by the waiter. Why wouldn't the waiter do either of those things?
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:33 am to
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It seems like the waiter didn't explain why the charge was on there, and the policy wasn't discussed by the waiter. Why wouldn't the waiter do either of those things?


It seems like the OP never bothered to ask.

FWIW I do agree that the policy should be listed somewhere up front.
Posted by Tiger in the Sticks
Back in the Boot
Member since Jan 2007
1456 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:35 am to
I wouldn’t reduce the tip at all; that sounds like a restaurant policy and not the server’s. I’ll actually increase a tip if we’re having a good time and stay longer, because they may have been able to seat another party during that time. I wouldn’t pay the $15 if it’s not posted or listed on the menu, though, and I would never go back.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:36 am to
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When we were paying the guy with the card showed me the bill and we had LEISURE TIME for $15 tacked on.

Waiter just wanted you to pay for his dinner, seems.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20634 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:37 am to
<1% chance the waiter did this by their choice, it would have mostly likely been automatic or done my management or in the least with management approval. It’s more likely something added during peak times automatically to increase the restaurant’s profit. So dining from like 6-9 has a BS thing added in.

There’s very little that just waiters can usually do. Things like discounts, coupons, etc. are almost always required to have management approval which means they have to be approved by a manager entering a code at the computer system.

Source: I’ve known a hustle where a waiter carries local coupons in their wallet and when someone pays in cash, this waiter would ask the management to approve the coupon AFTER payment is made. In this hustle, the waiter then pockets the difference of the total minus the coupon. Just a simple bogo, free app, 10%, etc. can add up over the course of a week.

This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 8:41 am
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55992 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:37 am to
The waiter should have had the balls to explain why it was there
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
5216 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:47 am to
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If they charged you for extra steaks and drinks would you pay that too? Why do you think it is OK to get charged for stuff you didn't order?


I wasn't the one paying - company expense - and was trying to gtfo as the guy had already taken enough time. Calling them today to discuss.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38920 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:51 am to
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That’s because you use logic to make decisions. Many in this thread make decisions based upon emotion.


You could argue bad policy that leads to bad tips lead to go servers leaving and hurts the business
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
5216 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:55 am to
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<1% chance the waiter did this by their choice, it would have mostly likely been automatic or done my management or in the least with management approval.

I'm not so sure. I worked in a halfway upscale place that charged a "corkage fee" if you brought your own wine but it was entirely up to our discretion on whether or not to charge. You'd have to be a world class a-hole to get it charged.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45138 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:56 am to
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You could argue bad policy that leads to bad tips lead to go servers leaving and hurts the business


Sure. You could also argue that its more mature and helpful to address the issue with someone who can do something about it instead of passively aggressively taking your frustrations out on a employee with no decision making power.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14264 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 9:11 am to
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Never seen it. Not surprised in Dallas. The rip you off culture is strong there


Alamo Drafthouse has started adding an 18% service charge to every bill, regardless of the amount. They don't specifically state that it's for wait staff and they encourage you to leave extra if you enjoyed great service. While I'm not a fan of the mandatory charge, it won't keep me from going there. I've seen some people get pissy about it and want to speak with management.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
64886 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 9:25 am to
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You could argue bad policy that leads to bad tips lead to go servers leaving and hurts the business


You could argue anything you want. Doesn’t automatically make your argument a correct one.
Posted by Rex Feral
Athens
Member since Jan 2014
11539 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 3:32 pm to
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But yeah, go ahead and punish the people who have nothing to do with it.


The waiter knew the charge was there and didn't say or do anything. There's a difference between being passive aggressive and not causing a scene.
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
13309 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 3:37 pm to
A few restaurants in destin do this during the summer. I get it they need to turn tables and they don’t want families camping out after they eat but the people eating at the restaurant need to know about it beforehand
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