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re: Even the military is getting fat
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:48 am to Manlaw35
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:48 am to Manlaw35
Once you're out of boot camp and all that initial training, how strict are the higher ups on servicemembers staying in shape? Are there regular PT tests? Do you risk a discharge if you're too fat?
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Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:48 am to jbgleason
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I normally agree with Scruffy but in this instance I don’t as it applies to this particular issue. BMI testing, by PT instructors who went to a two hour class and using calipers, is wildly inaccurate. Back in the day, when I was a wee lad. I was a y’all, skinny PT God. During Basic I was in a position to get an award (and a cash bonus) as I maxed every portion of the then rather extensive PT test. The “600 club” was kind of a big deal.
Then some asshat PT Instructor took my BMI and declared me “obese”. fricker couldn’t even get a good caliper reading on the side of my thigh until he grabbed a portion of my quad and measured that. I am pretty sure I still have bruises from where he grabbed some internal organs to get an abdomen reading.
If they want to make real policy decisions based off of BMI, they should be putting the kids in a float tank to get numbers.
A. Anecdotal.
B. To repeat, neither the BMI calculations nor the military workout regimen has changed in 8 years, yet the rate of obesity is up 6%.
Are you saying there are just that many more service members adding that muscle the last 8 years?
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:49 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:Honestly it seems reasonable to me. I’m 5’9”(and a half) and I’m 175. Neither fat nor skinny, smoke a pack a day, eat like shite and can’t remember the last time I worked out voluntarily. I’m still pretty sure I’m under the obesity threshold for my weight.
FYI, the obesity threshold for a 6'0" tall person is 221 lbs.
6 foot flat and 221 lbs. is obese.
Lose weight.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:51 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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I’m still pretty sure I’m under the obesity threshold for my weight.
25.8 BMI, you are not "too" overweight.
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smoke a pack a day, eat like shite and can’t remember the last time I worked out voluntarily
But you're still going to die quite young
This post was edited on 9/6/19 at 8:53 am
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:51 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:25.8
Honestly it seems reasonable to me. I’m 5’9”(and a half) and I’m 175. Neither fat nor skinny, smoke a pack a day, eat like shite and can’t remember the last time I worked out voluntarily. I’m still pretty sure I’m under the obesity threshold for my weight.
You are right at the overweight cutoff.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:51 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Honestly it seems reasonable to me. I’m 5’9”(and a half) and I’m 175. Neither fat nor skinny, smoke a pack a day, eat like shite and can’t remember the last time I worked out voluntarily. I’m still pretty sure I’m under the obesity threshold for my weight.
According to BMI, you're just barely in the Overweight category.
But, I don't think it is your weight that is going to kill you.
This post was edited on 9/6/19 at 8:52 am
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:51 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:But not fat
But you're still going to die quite young
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:52 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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But not fat
Eh.
You sound kinda fat.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:52 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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I worked out voluntarily. I’m still pretty sure I’m under the obesity threshold for my weight.
That’s a BMI of 25.8....puts you in the overweight category(but not the obese category)
Get under 25 and you are out of the overweight category
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:53 am to Salmon
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Eh.
You sound kinda fat.
If you saw him walking around Disneyworld though, he wouldn't look fat in comparison. And that is the issue.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:53 am to lsunurse
Meh. I’m comfortable like this. Living healthy sounds terrible.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:54 am to GetCocky11
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Once you're out of boot camp and all that initial training, how strict are the higher ups on servicemembers staying in shape? Are there regular PT tests? Do you risk a discharge if you're too fat?
Depends on service but the Marines were strict. All services do regular PT tests. I saw a few get kicked out because they couldn't get their weight down. That's very rare though because once you start to gain weight they put you on a strict exercise plan. It's usually someone that gets hurt and can't exercise that's at risk for being discharged for being overweight.
This post was edited on 9/6/19 at 8:55 am
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:54 am to GetCocky11
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If you saw him walking around Disneyworld though, he wouldn't look fat in comparison. And that is the issue.
oh absolutely
I work in O&G
in an office of about 60 people, there are like 4 people that I would categorize as "not fat"
at least 20 are morbidly obese
its sad
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:55 am to Scruffy
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You believe that this inaccuracy is at such a level that the results would skew by percentage points >5?
You would also have to believe that the PT instructors got suddenly worse at taking BMI measurements in the last few years.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:55 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Meh. I’m comfortable like this. Living healthy sounds terrible.
yes
lots of energy, good sex drive, being able to breathe while walking up steps, etc
all terrible things
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:56 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Meh. I’m comfortable like this. Living healthy sounds terrible.
You are several tiers away from "living healthy"
You're in the "suicidal lifestyle" tier.
Cut out smoking, eat a tiny portion of vegetables each day, and walk for 20 minutes a day and you'll probably add 10 years to your life and feel 10x better.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:56 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Living healthy sounds terrible.
You'd be surprised what 1 hour of active exercise a day can do for your life.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:56 am to TigerinATL
Seems some aren't as proud of the uniform they wear as others. Don't think you can be proud of representing the Navy while obese in their uniform.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:56 am to chryso
quote:Exactly.
You would also have to believe that the PT instructors got suddenly worse at taking BMI measurements in the last few years.
The only way anyone could justify that opinion is if they could show that there were massive swings in the percentages between previous years.
Not 1-2%, but 5-10+%, as we see in this study.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:58 am to GetCocky11
quote:Walking, running, bike riding.
You'd be surprised what 1 hour of active exercise a day can do for your life.
It doesn’t take much.
Very calming too.
People don’t have to hit the weights.
All it requires is cardio and eating somewhat healthier.
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