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re: Europe is experiencing a heat wave. Still has not widely adopted A/C

Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:18 am to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63934 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:18 am to
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It's not false


It is false.

Your stats were fine. You incorrectly summarized the stats.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30280 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:18 am to
We were in London one July and went to Goodwood Festival of Speed. The Brits were melting in about an 83 degree heatwave.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46056 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:19 am to
My italy property has AC on every floor. frick not having an AC there. Gets hotter than a mother fricker in the summer
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78517 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:19 am to
Just not their culture. Also there are a lot of 3rd world level areas of Europe.

Not sure where these deaths break down per country though.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182664 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:20 am to
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now do winter



A quick google search

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Between 40,000 and 46,000 people die each year in the United States from cold-related causes


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A large European study found about 204,000 cold-attributable deaths per year across Europe, compared with about 20,000 heat-attributable deaths


Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36218 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:21 am to
That didn't go as planned for him
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5942 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:22 am to
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No matter how you look at it, it's a stupid problem for Europe to have

I go there often. It is true that many older housing units do not have AC. Bosnia gets fairly hot and humid during the summer. My in-laws have never had AC. We are trying to get them to move into a new building. They are such a proud and practical people, they refuse. They say they never needed it before and do not need it now.
This post was edited on 5/26/26 at 9:20 am
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78517 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:23 am to
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A large European study found about 204,000 cold-attributable deaths per year across Europe, compared with about 20,000 heat-attributable deaths


Isn't that 20k low compared to the info in the OP article?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182664 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:23 am to
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Not sure where these deaths break down per country though.



Heat-related mortality in Europe during 2024 and health emergency forecasting to reduce preventable deaths


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Country Estimated heat-related deaths
Italy >19,000
Spain >6,700
Germany ~6,300
Greece ~6,000
Romania >4,900
Other 27 countries combined ~19,900
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5942 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:25 am to
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My italy property has AC on every floor. frick not having an AC there. Gets hotter than a mother fricker in the summer

Newer construction?

Our Croatian properties are new and have very good AC and heating. They build very good houses there. Just don't expect it to be done quickly.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182664 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:25 am to
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Isn't that 20k low compared to the info in the OP article?


Yea

The number the WHO put out seems high looking at other studies that all come in at about 60K deaths per year. The WHO probably needs to pump the numbers up for funding purposes.
This post was edited on 5/26/26 at 8:26 am
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
13821 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:25 am to
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More people die in Europe annually due to heat than are killed by guns in America


Not sure I believe that. Wild if true.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93462 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:28 am to
Yeah but look at all the Earth and feels they're saving by not having AC.

It's worth the sacrifice. Those old people don't deserve to keep living anyway.
Posted by JimTiger72
LA
Member since Jun 2023
18985 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:28 am to
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The Met Office expects highs of 33C on Wednesday, 32C on Thursday, 30C on Friday and 29C on Saturday.

A peak of 35C is again expected in London



2nd page & we still don’t know how hot it is over there
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46056 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:28 am to
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Newer construction?


The bottom floor is underground and from the 1300s

The top floor (fourth floor) is from the 1800s I believe. We retrofitted it, though.

Where in Croatia?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78517 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:29 am to
May be a definition or exclusion thing.

Those who died with heat related complications vs those who died because.

May also be a boundary thing.

19,000 is high for Italy in any manner. They aren't big on AC though.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182664 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:31 am to
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Yeah but look at all the Earth and feels they're saving by not having AC.



Meanwhile, their sacrifice is offset by Indians who shite in the rivers and dump trash in the ocean and China who accounts for about 33% of all CO2 emissions.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38745 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:32 am to
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get that they don't need it too often, but why not buy a window unit for the occasional heat wave?


Their buildings are small so tha might be an option. I know a full AC unit would be a challenge. Many bars cannot get a glycol unit either for that same reason
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12771 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:37 am to
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A peak of 35C is again expected in London


That is nothing in Fahrenheit Freedom Units.

That is why I don't trust the metric system for some measures.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15468 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:41 am to
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Europe is experiencing a heat wave. Still has not widely adopted A/C


frick Europe
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