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re: Estranged From Parents
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:41 am to tigernurse
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:41 am to tigernurse
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:45 am to tigernurse
quote:I’m sure that was difficult, I am so sorry that happened. But you are a great mom because she is back!! I hope all of her wounds heal, and everyone gets to a better place.
That was so so hard to endure but I didn't pressure her.
Kudos to you for giving her space.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:50 am to Stinger_1066
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To top it all off, they are all hyper religious (Pentecostal Holiness).
This is the problem.
However I know a few of them and they are fun to troll provided you keep it above their head just out of awareness. If they catch it oh well…you’re going to hell.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:50 am to SaintlyTiger88
Regardless of how I felt about my parents- I never had drama issues with both my parents. I’d never block or allow them not to have a relationship with their grandparents
Posted on 11/5/24 at 8:02 am to SaintlyTiger88
All kinds of people are shitty and toxic. If a person chooses to cut a shitty person out of their life, so be it.
The mom in this scenario is probably a controlling narcissist. If not and the son is wrong, then he's doing the mom a favor. Either way, it's their lives.
The mom in this scenario is probably a controlling narcissist. If not and the son is wrong, then he's doing the mom a favor. Either way, it's their lives.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 8:12 am to Martini
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This is the problem.
However I know a few of them and they are fun to troll provided you keep it above their head just out of awareness. If they catch it oh well…you’re going to hell.
Oh yeah. I have a lot of fun with that. It has been 10 years, and they haven't caught on yet. Not sure they ever will.
I forgot to mention, my FIL and his wife host a "family Christmas" party every year, usually the 1st or 2nd weekend in December. All of the remaining cousins, nieces, nephews, and their families are invited to come. The crowd has dwindled over the past 10 years, some due to people dying. But shortly before I joined the family, my wife's step-mom made some derogatory comments one year about the Eastern Orthodox church, and apparently one of the guests had recently converted. That caused a huge rift that cut the attenance in half the following year.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 8:14 am to SaintlyTiger88
Talked to a pastor and like 25% off families have an estranged
person in them...its crazy
person in them...its crazy
Posted on 11/5/24 at 8:31 am to Tmcgin
My kids are estranged from their alcoholic mother, my ex wife. I think the nail in the coffin was when she broke into my house while we were on a family vacation and she lit it on fire.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 8:31 am to SaintlyTiger88
Outside of the obvious like not physically abusing or neglecting them, I feel like there is one basic rule for parents that there is a lifetime expectation of: Parents should truly want what is best for their children and actively encourage growth.
Parents have a massively out-sized role in the lives of their kids and children have an innate desire to seek approval, long into adulthood. That comes with huge responsibility. The worst kinds of parents take advantage of that and intentionally seek to control and hold their children back from reaching their potential, either due to insecurity or ego.
When a parent takes the path of actively and intentionally becoming a barrier to their adult child's growth, I have no issue with estrangement as a last resort. And no, I'm not talking about snowflake fights about politics. I'm talking drug/alcoholism, constant belittlement for taking a big promotion that required moving from the hometown, etc. I'm fortunate that has never been an issue for me, but I know people who will never escape poverty and mediocrity because they can't escape their parent's who share that same attitude and don't want to see their kids do any better.
Parents have a massively out-sized role in the lives of their kids and children have an innate desire to seek approval, long into adulthood. That comes with huge responsibility. The worst kinds of parents take advantage of that and intentionally seek to control and hold their children back from reaching their potential, either due to insecurity or ego.
When a parent takes the path of actively and intentionally becoming a barrier to their adult child's growth, I have no issue with estrangement as a last resort. And no, I'm not talking about snowflake fights about politics. I'm talking drug/alcoholism, constant belittlement for taking a big promotion that required moving from the hometown, etc. I'm fortunate that has never been an issue for me, but I know people who will never escape poverty and mediocrity because they can't escape their parent's who share that same attitude and don't want to see their kids do any better.
This post was edited on 11/5/24 at 8:39 am
Posted on 11/5/24 at 8:40 am to Tiger n Austin
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by Tiger n AustinMy kids are estranged from their alcoholic mother, my ex wife. I think the nail in the coffin was when she broke into my house while we were on a family vacation and she lit it on fire.
That’s more like a deck screw with liquid nail, wood glue and JB Weld just to be sure.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 8:56 am to GreenRockTiger
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Is that clearer?
Yes, and wow! That's a shame she has that attitude.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:00 am to Penrod
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Yes, and wow! That's a shame she has that attitude.
And that’s nothing compared to how she treated my husband, her son. His father is not much better.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:02 am to Tmcgin
Just thought of another one.
My mother is 92.
She grew up in England. She was born in 1932 (pre-WWII).
She never met anyone from my grandfather's side of the family. He was 20 years older than my grandmother. He died when I was 3.
Over the past 20 years, my mom has gotten into genealogy research.
She discovered that her father had been married before and had a family. She also discovered that her parents were never legally married.
She assumes that her father left his first family after hooking up with her mom, and he was ostracized.
My mother is 92.
She grew up in England. She was born in 1932 (pre-WWII).
She never met anyone from my grandfather's side of the family. He was 20 years older than my grandmother. He died when I was 3.
Over the past 20 years, my mom has gotten into genealogy research.
She discovered that her father had been married before and had a family. She also discovered that her parents were never legally married.
She assumes that her father left his first family after hooking up with her mom, and he was ostracized.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:21 am to Rouge
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As many people begin to get older, they start to feel a loss of control and Independence. Oftentimes, a reaction to these changes in circumstances cause these older people to attempt to assert more control in any available areas of their lives. The first avenue in which to assert additional control is typically within the family unit.
Yep.
I'm not estranged from my parents, but they still to this day grapple with the fact that I'm a successful adult that has my own family, career and life.
Holidays are a bitch because my mom has basically no shame in attempting to get us to spend every single holiday with them instead of my in laws (who I like). It's been 10 years since we've done thanksgiving on thanksgiving with my in laws. They are going out of the country the weekend after thanksgiving, so they requested LONG in advance to spend thanksgiving day with us.
That did NOT go over well with my parents, who have since, for months, tried every which way to get us to do thanksgiving with them earlier in the week so we can be with them on thanksgiving day.
If my mom had it her way her daughter in law and grandkids would never spend a single holiday with my wife's parents. They begrudgingly accept that we go to the in laws for christmas dinner after spending christmas morning through lunch with them.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:21 am to Tmcgin
quote:Ironic as religion is supposed to be about turning the other cheek and it has caused a decent proportion of these estrangements.
Talked to a pastor and like 25% off families have an estranged person in them...its crazy
Most pastors fail to grasp the irony though.
Episcopalians (in my experience) are the most likely to, maybe they get schisms?
I am fortunate to not have any estrangements on either side of my family or my in-laws (that I’m aware of).
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:26 am to SaintlyTiger88
I'm estranged from my Dad. He's a piece of shite. Cheated on my mom with her best friend which drove her to alcoholism while I was a kid (the alcoholism is not "his fault"). Post-divorce he frequently abandoned me (as a kid, 9-12 years old) to deal with her completely plastered at her house while dropping me off from custody swaps. Eventually he broke up with the chick he cheated with and she started dating his best friend. Then he got a new wife, and now they all swing together. Then my mom killed herself and I had to finish out my teen years (14-18) living with him where he was pretty abusive. Never once has he tried to apologize or even acknowledge what I had to deal with as a result of his actions. So yeah frick 'em
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:35 am to SaintlyTiger88
My wife finally cut ties with her dad. He is the definition of a narcissist. Checks every freaking box. I've never met anyone like him. Been married at least 5 times, multiple other long term girlfriends, and none of the break ups were his fault. Has played mental games with my wife her whole life. Would go months and sometimes years without talking to her because he got his feelings hurt over something. I hate to say this, but I'm ready for him to just die so she can get over the guilt of cutting him off.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:53 am to SaintlyTiger88
Three of my kids, (18,18 and 20) are estranged from their mom. All I will say is sometimes it's best to distance yourself.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 11:31 am to SaintlyTiger88
I have limited contact with my mother. Not estranged just not able to deal with the drama that she thrives on. Same for 2 sisters although I have had more interaction with one of them in the last 4 years than the previous 15. I have a unique ability to love and care for people deeply but cut them the frick out of my life without a moments regret. Its emotionally unhealthy to keep people in your life whose company you do not enjoy. There is no requirement that one maintain an unhealthy relationship simply because you are related to the person or have known them a long time.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 11:41 am to SaintlyTiger88
My stepdaughter has not spoken to her biological dad but one time in the last 13 years, after he kicked her out of the house.
He has never met either of his grandchildren. I was present at both of their births and have been to most of my grandson's ball games (seeing him win the city league championship last year).
And recently her mom commissioned a portrait with mom, daughter, the grandkids - and yours truly, though I am technically not part of the family.
He has never met either of his grandchildren. I was present at both of their births and have been to most of my grandson's ball games (seeing him win the city league championship last year).
And recently her mom commissioned a portrait with mom, daughter, the grandkids - and yours truly, though I am technically not part of the family.
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