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Estonia experiments with time outs instead of speeding tickets

Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106059 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:12 pm
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The program has two tiers, with those caught traveling above the limit by 20 km/h or less subject to a 45 minute wait along the shoulder, with those caught exceeding the limit by 21-40 lm/h subject to a 60 minute wait.
Estonia has been struck by a sharp increase in road fatalities between 2017 and 2018, prompting this unique attempt at changing driver behavior. the program is just a pilot right now but it will be tested again over the coming weeks to help determine whether it is an effective deterrent.



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Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:13 pm to
Time is money
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48176 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:13 pm to
That seems more effective than a fine. Of course they cant steal your money in the name of safety like that
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61784 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:13 pm to
I think that it would be awesome if we could disable cars with the push of a button when they are driving like idiots and putting others at risk
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4233 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:22 pm to
how much you wanna bet speed isn't the problem
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
10131 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:26 pm to
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I think that it would be awesome if we could disable cars with the push of a button when they are driving like idiots and putting others at risk


That sounds safe
Posted by Booyow
Member since Mar 2010
4193 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

experiments with time outs


So, an automatic 45 - 60 minute jail sentence. That sucks
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61784 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:30 pm to
A warning can pop up telling the car to pull over and the car starts slowing down
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76148 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:31 pm to
I’d move to Estonia next week if the local female talent would reward good driving behavior in the manner I’m thinking of.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:37 pm to
You already have to wait 20-30 minutes before they walk up to your car.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:42 pm to
That's how long it takes for cops to figure how to open the door
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
27536 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:46 pm to
Someone is apparently programming people to accept loss of all freedoms.

No one owns you. Fight to keep your independence.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61784 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:47 pm to
Someone is the a-hole wreckless driver. LOL
This post was edited on 9/28/19 at 2:44 pm
Posted by wheelr
New Iberia
Member since Jul 2012
6228 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:51 pm to
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how much you wanna bet speed isn't the problem


You could argue speed is never the problem. It is human error in some form.

Safe high speeds are possible with better drivers and technology.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4233 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 1:06 pm to
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You could argue speed is never the problem. It is human error in some form.

Safe high speeds are possible with better drivers and technology.


I would argue that. the problem with the "technology" part is that it requires giving up some amount of freedom to AI/self driving cars. id rather it be privately operated than have the state control my travel. till then, road violations are just taxes.
Posted by wheelr
New Iberia
Member since Jul 2012
6228 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 1:19 pm to
By technology I meant for cases such as mechanical failures (ie tires blowing out).

I also don't want to give up the ability to drive my own vehicle.
This post was edited on 9/28/19 at 1:20 pm
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4233 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4793 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 1:34 pm to
tickets penalize the poor much more than the rich other than places who do it as a % of annual income. A "time out" arguably makes things more level, though it's doubtful a rich guy would lose their job after being an hour late though an hourly laborer might.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4416 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 3:01 pm to
Your freedom stops when it endangers someone else's.
This post was edited on 9/28/19 at 3:02 pm
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4793 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 4:22 pm to
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Your freedom stops when it endangers someone else's.


driving a significantly different speed than those around you is infinitely more dangerous. Both too fast and too slow. Going 15mph over the speed limit when you're going with traffic isn't an issue. Going 15mph under the speed limit generally is an issue.
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