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re: EPA to require that cars and trucks achieve an average of 52 mpg average by 2026
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:38 am to Ralph_Wiggum
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:38 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Once the battery technology gets better (lighter, more distances, quick recharging) the gas engine will be replaced. The gas engine will go the way of the coal-fired steam engine.
Sure it will, eventually. The technology is not there yet, and the free market wouldn't support any of this right now. The government needs to let the market naturally decide what the best tech for the time is. Thats how we got the steam engine and manned flight. That is how we will get whatever is next. Forcing it doesn't work
Lithium ion batteries isn't the final answer, and I personally don't think batteries are the answer at all.
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Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:40 am to Oilfieldbiology
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:40 am to Oilfieldbiology
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This is how you get shitty fricking cars that only hippies like to drive.
I still know of some "hippies" that cry about gasoline and diesel and drive the old hippie type big vans
talk about gas guzzlers.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:42 am to goofball
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52 MPG Average By 2026
why not make it 100?
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:45 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Also, how much gas does it actually save?
Less $$ than the early failure of the starter you'll have to replace as a result of this feature
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:45 am to goofball
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Ford and GM are all in on it.
They are ahead of Toyota and Honda in EV's
I'm waiting to see what Toyota and Honda do. My guess is they have been working on this way longer than anyone wants to give them credit for, they just aren't trying to rush to the starting line like the others.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:46 am to kywildcatfanone
Pull out of the US market possibly. Neither offers a diesel vehicle in the US because they don't want to deal with the bullshite and possibility of getting volkswaggoned
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:46 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Once the battery technology gets better (lighter, more distances, quick recharging) the gas engine will be replaced. The gas engine will go the way of the coal-fired steam engine.
Now do airplanes.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:46 am to kywildcatfanone
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I'm waiting to see what Toyota and Honda do.
Honda is just buying the EV running gear and skateboard chassis from GM. All of their first line of long range EV's will be built by General Motors.
GM to Build Honda and Acura a Pair of Electric Crossovers
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:48 am to goofball
How about India and China put any type of emissions control on their vehicles. That would make the biggest impact on climate change.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:50 am to goofball
Oh, well if they are getting their EV tech from GM, then I'm out.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:54 am to goofball
They don't have the balls or votes to legislate an electric car mandate so they are trying to use regulations that will achieve the same result.
Over the long haul, this is going to make vintage car collecting interesting.
Over the long haul, this is going to make vintage car collecting interesting.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Youre not pulling a boat with your precious mini cooper or whatever you drive.
I drive the H-1 thank you very much
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:58 am to MorbidTheClown
quote:Not sure mine would do it then. I LOVE the truck, but it sucks gas like a $5 whore going down on the weekend.
only way my tundra would do that is if it was riding on the back of a flatbed.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:05 am to Oilfieldbiology
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This is how you get shitty fricking cars that only hippies like to drive. Get the government out of the way and let the market decide. If everyone wants to drive a Tesla, let the demand dictate it. If everyone wants to drive a a got damned muscle car that gets 2 gallons to the mile, let the market dictate it.
I am not necessarily in favor of this, but it's also how you get innovation that will push the boundaries. As long as we still enjoy a free market, manufacturers are going to build what the people want. If a bad arse truck is what people want, they will build it, but it will have to reach whatever mileage standard the government sets.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:05 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Cars and trucks are getting better gas millage every year
My work car just got upgraded from a Ford Focus (I hated it but it was free) to a Ford Escape because they stopped making focuses and fusions.
While I’d rather have something full sized, I’ve been pleasantly surprised by the Escape’s fuel economy. If I go in eco mode on the highway I gets 35-38 mpg and is still fairly zippy.
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My car automatically stops its engine when I am at a stoplight or stop sign
This is a stupid feature saving almost no gas, stopping almost no emissions, and wearing out the starter.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:07 am to goofball
My F-150 gets like 16 on a good day. LOL
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:10 am to RealityTiger
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My F150 comes with this feature and it's the worst fricking idea ever. You have to disable it every time you start the engine.
Forscan. I have it completely erased from my truck. It doesn't even come up in the menu.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:10 am to Jimbeaux
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Man, who elected these tyrant dictators in the administrative state?
We all did when we voted for the uniparty Republicrats.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:11 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Electric vehicles have much greater acceleration rates versus gas engines and have as much power for towing and hauling.
Once the battery technology gets better (lighter, more distances, quick recharging) the gas engine will be replaced. The gas engine will go the way of the coal-fired steam engine.
Youthink rollingblackouts are bad in Cali now...
You're ignoring a whole lot of infrastructure that needs upgrading to handle that kind of electric demand.
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