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re: Ensminger Jr. filing lawsuit for Carley McCord’s death

Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:10 am to
Posted by Pierre
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:10 am to
Most of not all of you if not all would do the same in his position. It just makes nice keyboard mantra for the righteous reverse social justice warrior crowd.
Posted by lammo
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Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:11 am to
Sudden emergency doctrine excuses those who are faced with a sudden emergency not of defendant's making.

To swerve is a very ordinary human reaction, reflexive.

Issue would likely have to be litigated, however. That's what courts and trials are for.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
86467 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:11 am to
The real interesting convos are when the guys like tiger skin and that other guy get in bad accidents, get offered $14 for their medical bills, and end up in my office.

“I never thought I’d end up in an office like this talking to a lawyer, but...”
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:12 am to
quote:

Most of not all of you if not all would do the same in his position.


Exactly.

I'm confounded by the number of people in here that are bashing him for doing so. It makes zero sense.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481230 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:12 am to
it's definitely an ongoing argument where it's hard not to be a smug dickhead and talk about nuance

but these people need some nuance in their lives. they're just primed and biased against "lawsuits" and have no understanding of the actual argument/discussion. that's why people acting like the "tort reform" that is trying to be passed would make the attorney handling THIS case scared, is the height of ignorance
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
86467 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:14 am to
30 years of LABI and Chamber of Commerce PR campaigns telling people to limit their access to the courthouse for a variety of reasons.

And then Gordon McKernan stepped on a truck and all bets were off.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 8:15 am
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143793 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:15 am to
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Why can't his insurance company?


Why should his insurance company pay for it when it was your wrongful action?

What if your wife goes to Piccadilly for her second serving and steps through a rotten floorboard. She requires an ACL repair. But unbeknownst to anyone, she develops necrotizing fasciitis and needs her leg amputated in an emergency surgery. Now, your wife is 36 years old and an amputee. You have to take time off of work to assist in her rehabilitation.

I’m sure as long as your health insurance company pays her medicals you’re ok with that being the sole recovery, right?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125141 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:15 am to
Or dispute all lost wages
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125141 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:16 am to
I practice in a state with tort reform

It’s not the brawndo laden paradise these guys expect
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80871 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:17 am to
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The fact is, though, that if that situation actually did happen on the road, then your speed would be taken into account, how close you were to the vehicle in front of you that kicked-up the debris, weather conditions, distractions in your car, had you been drinking, etc
70 mph. The vehicle that kicked up the debris was not in my lane but in the next lane to the right of me and was about 25 yards ahead of me. No weather issues. No distractions. No alcohol.

I understand that point you're making. I was responding to a poster that said there are no "accidents" involving automobiles.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:19 am to
If the operator was truly at fault and could’ve prevented the crash, suing them is spot on.

Our society is lawsuit happy but there are still times when it carries merit.

What I detest is people who have zero clue what her husband and family have gone through pontificate their righteous perspective.

For those that do, gfy.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
13711 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:19 am to
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required to collect life insurance.


nope. That's the reason that policies have accidental death provisions. life insurance will pay out regardless of suit is filed or not
Posted by Traveler
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Member since Sep 2003
26626 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:20 am to
I served on a jury (Foreman) on a wrongful death, medical malpractice case. We were in the punitive stage and had to award compensation to the victim's family.
Putting a dollar figure to someone's life isn't an easy thing to do. A lot had to be considered and it was understood that if the Judge felt our dollar figure was excessive, he could throw it out and make his own decision.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:21 am to
Yep

Lawsuit baaaddddd


They do this on many things where they have no idea of circumstances. It’s called being an a-hole.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80871 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:22 am to
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Why should his insurance company pay for it when it was your wrongful action? 
It wasn't a wrongful act, per the poster Lammo above.
quote:

What if your wife goes to Piccadilly for her second serving and steps through a rotten floorboard. She requires an ACL repair. But unbeknownst to anyone, she develops necrotizing fasciitis and needs her leg amputated in an emergency surgery
C'mon this isn't remotely similar to my hypothetical.

And to be clear, I am not arguing against what the topic of this thread was regarding. I have no opinion on Ensminger's action at this point.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 8:25 am
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:24 am to
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This could be something to help cover funeral costs and such for all we know


That was tragedy and we all feel for the Ensminger family.

But I’m fairly certain they don’t need help paying for a funeral.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:25 am to
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You don’t deserve money for being emotionally upset about a death


But if the death was due to negligence?????
Posted by Elleshoe
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Member since Jun 2004
143793 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:25 am to
quote:

quote:

Why should his insurance company pay for it when it was your wrongful action? 
It wasn't a wrongful act, per the poster Lammo above.


He raised a defense. Maybe it prevails and maybe it doesn’t. Either way, you still committed an act that injured someone else which may or may not be excused because of the sudden emergency

quote:

C'mon this isn't remotely similar to my hypothetical


Sure it is.. a wrongful or negligent act harming another. That is what you’re covered for. When you mess up, even if you didn’t necessarily intend to harm someone else.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 8:29 am
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:29 am to
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It also claims the late pilot lacked experience or training to fly that particular plan in “less than ideal meteorological conditions,


This part is almost certainly nonsense, FWIW.

For the people who disagree with my statement: The pilot was multi-engine, commercially rated for 15 years and holds an instrument rating. There’s a zero percent chance he “lacked experience or training.”
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 11:21 am
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52769 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:29 am to
OP, frick you. Get a goddamned life.
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