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Enormous waste of time in schools
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:41 pm
I have three immediate relatives, one is class valedictorian, with multiple years of Spanish credit and yet none can speak or read very much of the language. Why are schools wasting time providing a subject with no value? Does anyone on the OT know of a success story?
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:43 pm to 75503Tiger
Donde Owlie¿
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:43 pm to 75503Tiger
Como estas?
muy bien
All you need to know.
muy bien
All you need to know.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:44 pm to 75503Tiger
I have to agree...I took two years of Spanish in high school and can't say that I learned a single thing that has been of use.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:44 pm to 75503Tiger
Teaching kids to "check the box"
They will make great middle management.
They will make great middle management.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:44 pm to 75503Tiger
Qué mierda?
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:45 pm to 75503Tiger
Doulingo baw.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:45 pm to 75503Tiger
quote:
I have three immediate relatives, one is class valedictorian, with multiple years of Spanish credit and yet none can speak or read very much of the language. Why are schools wasting time providing a subject with no value? Does anyone on the OT know of a success story?
No
Nobody knows anyone who successfully began learning a foreign language in school and went on to some level of proficiency
We should write our congressmen
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:45 pm to East Coast Band
quote:False.
All you need to know.
Cerveza
¿Dónde está el cuarto de baño?
Those are the only two you need to know.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:46 pm to Spankum
quote:wait a few years
I took two years of Spanish in high school and can't say that I learned a single thing that has been of use
you'll need it
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:48 pm to 75503Tiger
With all of the time we use on Spanish, they’d be better off completely immersing us for two years in the middle of our education instead of using 1 of 7 of our classes in Spanish. I would love to speak Spanish well. But the American system ain’t doing it right.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:50 pm to 75503Tiger
It's not that it's a waste, its that we do it backwards. It should be taught at the youngest ages, immersion is the way. My son goes to a French immersion school and he's learning so much I almost can't believe it.
There is evidence that bilingual children test higher in math and science later on.
There is evidence that bilingual children test higher in math and science later on.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:50 pm to 75503Tiger
Well it takes more than three years to really be fluent speaking a language when you only get lessons for one hour, three times a week. Learning another language is very useful, especially Spanish since there has been such a heavy influx of Hispanics. School is designed for academic learning. There is no such thing as a waste of time about teaching or learning.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:50 pm to 75503Tiger
:)
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:52 pm to TexasTiger1185
quote:
It's not that it's a waste, its that we do it backwards. It should be taught at the youngest ages, immersion is the way. My son goes to a French immersion school and he's learning so much I almost can't believe it.
There is evidence that bilingual children test higher in math and science later on.
I was in a French immersion program when I was growing up, too. I am very surprised they still exist. I'm happy to that they still do, especially in Louisiana where speaking French is a big part of our culture.
ETA: Or I should say was a big part of our culture. Most of the French speakers I know have passed away.
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:56 pm to DeafJam73
I see that i may have miscommunicated. I believe there is value in learning Spanish. We are doing it wrong in our schools. But, when I look at what people write on social media, I realize that we fail to adequately teach our native language in schools.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:57 pm to 75503Tiger
My coworker's kid is going to be going to Columbia for linguistics. She began taking Spanish in late Elementary but also stuck with it and made it a point to use it conversationally (she tutors at the local racetrack with a lot of the backside's kids and some of the parents). It wasn't just a language credit for her towards graduation.
It is what you make of it. Like anything, if you don't use it you lose it.
It is what you make of it. Like anything, if you don't use it you lose it.
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:57 pm to DeafJam73
They are blowing up, there are some public, maybe charter? INternational School of Louisiana is one, Lycee is another. Then private ones too.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:00 pm to BluegrassBelle
I agree with the inmersion stuff and that speaking another language could be helpful, but with how bad our students generally are, I think it's valid to question if we should devote that time to mastering our own language and math and science rather than to learning a different language. If our native tongue wasn't the predominant world language than it may be a different story.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:01 pm to 75503Tiger
quote:
I have three immediate relatives, one is class valedictorian, with multiple years of Spanish credit and yet none can speak or read very much of the language. Why are schools wasting time providing a subject with no value? Does anyone on the OT know of a success story?
Because, generally with languages, they're "use it or lose it."
I took two semesters of Latin in high school, successfully tested out of the early classes in college and continued on to take a few more semesters there. I have retained a lot of my Latin knowledge because I actually enjoy it and practice it decently regularly.
On the other hand, over the years I've taken Spanish, German, and Ancient Greek as well, and never retained any of it because I didn't bother to practice any of it.
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