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End of life/DNR

Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:39 pm
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37656 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:39 pm
Is there a way to just go ahead and die if you suffer a
Medical event and are going to be a vegetable? Let’s say you don’t get to the point where you need to be resuscitated so a DNR isn’t in play? Can you prearrange for medical treatment to be withheld if you’re gonna be a vegetable? Or do you need to appoint a person to be responsible for saying when enough is enough?

Or does a DNR address all of this?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58705 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:41 pm to
Eight states and Washington, D.C., have death with dignity statutes:

California (End of Life Option Act; approved in 2015, in effect from 2016)
Colorado (End of Life Options Act; 2016)
District of Columbia (D.C. Death with Dignity Act; 2016/2017)
Hawai‘i (Our Care, Our Choice Act; 2018/2019)
Maine (Death with Dignity Act; 2019)
New Jersey (Aid in Dying for the Terminally Ill Act; 2019)
Oregon (Death with Dignity Act; 1994/1997)
Vermont (Patient Choice and Control at the End of Life Act; 2013)
Washington (Death with Dignity Act; 2008)
Posted by FenrirTheBeard
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
6733 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:41 pm to
I’m ready for the rapture.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
66315 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:43 pm to
Wouldn’t this be addressed with a living will?
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
51853 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:43 pm to
You need an Advanced Directive stating you don’t want to be tube fed or put on a vent

Talk to a lawyer but thats how I understand it

You also need to talk to your family about your wishes

LINK
This post was edited on 9/26/20 at 12:00 am
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37656 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

Living will


Don’t know that’s why I’m asking.
Posted by SeafoodPlatter
Member since Jul 2012
828 posts
Posted on 9/26/20 at 12:13 am to
Doesn't really matter if you have advanced directives, a selfish family member can say no i want you to work the code and all your wishes go out the window, worked many a code when that's happened (this is all assuming a non-hospital environment)
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84166 posts
Posted on 9/26/20 at 12:16 am to
Call a few lawyers. We do them for like $300. Only interesting thing in Louisiana is you need someone not in the will and someone not related to you in case of intestacy. Can’t have MeeMaw pulling the plug because she wants your double-wide with the good kitchen.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104067 posts
Posted on 9/26/20 at 12:17 am to
You want an advanced medical directive that specifies no feeding tube and no vent. But it won't stop some batshit family member from disregarding it. Be careful who you choose as your Mandatary.
Posted by greenhead11
Member since Feb 2012
951 posts
Posted on 9/26/20 at 1:43 am to
The best thing you can do is obtain a dnr and clearly state you wishes to your family not be resuscitated in the event of a catastrophic injury.

We do see family members revoke DNRs all the time last minute when things go down. All little education and explanation goes a long way.
Posted by Newrow
Member since Oct 2017
946 posts
Posted on 9/26/20 at 2:12 am to
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This post was edited on 9/26/20 at 2:14 am
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36988 posts
Posted on 9/26/20 at 2:35 am to
As others have pointed out having a living will with a DNR before the medical event is crucial. Providing your closest family members with the information may also prevent some types of problems.

If there is a chronic illness rather than an accident or sudden illness then having hospice care involved is often (if not typically) preferable. At the time of death you do not want someone to call 911 or emergency because they will attempt resuscitation and may have an obligation to investigate the possibility of foul play rather than a natural death. That would generally be a memorable shitshow.

Instead, call the hospice care who have been involved with care preceeding death. They will have a medical and legal process for things including the paperwork, medical examiner, and additional routine issues a bereaved family will be in no condition to handle
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37656 posts
Posted on 9/26/20 at 5:56 am to
quote:

you need someone not in the will and someone not related to you



MeeMaw always was a greedy old woman.

Well shite I don’t have anyone else. It’s either my wife or kinfolk.

Good info tho. Thanks everyone.
Posted by dawginar
Member since Jan 2012
1139 posts
Posted on 9/26/20 at 6:03 am to
quote:

wife


Pics??

quote:

I don't have anyone else


I may be able to help.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 9/26/20 at 6:07 am to
quote:

Doesn't really matter if you have advanced directives, a selfish family member can say no i want you to work the code and all your wishes go out the window, worked many a code when that's happened (this is all assuming a non-hospital environment)




It happens in the hospital all the time too.
Posted by ColdTurkey
Where the Buffalo roam...
Member since Nov 2019
7698 posts
Posted on 9/26/20 at 6:07 am to
I’ve been in a coma for 7 days with very little hope and woken up like a spring chicken out of nowhere. There is always hope.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72545 posts
Posted on 9/26/20 at 6:36 am to
quote:

Wouldn’t this be addressed with a living will?
You can ask him c/o the Saints.

Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37656 posts
Posted on 9/26/20 at 7:57 am to
You’re welcome to take your shot once I’m gone. But I gotta warn you, she’ll work you to death. You better like horses too.
Posted by leveedogs
Levee
Member since Jan 2016
276 posts
Posted on 9/26/20 at 9:43 am to
Step 1: Make sure your family knows your wishes. Living Will forms are a good way to figure out what you want and a means to share that info your next of kin. Living Wills are more of an exercise than a legal / medical imperative.

Step 2 (optional): Fill out a LaPOST with your PCP and have it scanned into your medical record. This is the safest way to ensure you are not resuscitated against your will in the ER/hospital or kept alive using artificial means.
Posted by Tiger in the Sticks
Back in the Boot
Member since Jan 2007
1725 posts
Posted on 9/26/20 at 10:07 am to
Here’s a link to the Louisiana form; make sure family members have a copy and let them know your wishes. I had a copy of my mom’s form, plus she had her wishes written in other places. We talked about it frequently and openly, and ultimately I did have to make the decision. As gut-wrenching and life-altering as that is, it can also be the last act of love. If you don’t want to be resuscitated at home, put a sign on your fridge and a copy of the directive inside of it.

Louisiana Living Will

Living Will Considerations

ETA-provides good info about artificial nutrition, etc.

DNR for EMS




This post was edited on 9/26/20 at 10:27 am
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