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re: Employers Can't Find Enough Workers Who Can Pass Drug Tests

Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:06 pm to
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Mortgage Servicing company in Dallas.
I'm surprised there aren't employees doing coke right at their desks
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:06 pm to
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Im sure this will make it easy to find Workers Comp coverage


Are the Mexicans asking for that now?
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
24059 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:07 pm to
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Nope. Employers are lawsuit targets if an employee fricks someone up while high on the job. Testing will continue.


There lies the problem though. A positive test for marijuana does NOT indicate that you are high on the job.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40991 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:08 pm to
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Well when you still have alcohol or drugs in your system on work time, you need to be fired.


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So if I smoke a joint on a Friday night and I don't have to be at work until Monday morning, I deserve to be fired? How am I endangering anyone?


Let's do this again.
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 2:09 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112578 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:08 pm to
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So you want pot heads running chemical plants and refineries?
So if we make the leap in logic that legal pot means everyone working in chemical plants will be high, we must now assume that everyone currently working there is drunk.
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Lucky_Dog
Member since May 2016
785 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:09 pm to
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Let's do this again.

The weed will still be in my system. I would fail a drug test.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40991 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:09 pm to
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There lies the problem though. A positive test for marijuana does NOT indicate that you are high on the job.


While that may be true, that's life. Some times it isn't fair.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:10 pm to
The U.S. military is having the same problem. Besides failed drug tests, millennials tend to be fat and out of shape, have criminal records and are too dumb to pass the ASVAB.

The latest I saw was that 75 percent of Americans of fighting age would be ineligible for the military. Of course, the government's answer would be to lower standards.

What a world that liberalism has wrought.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:10 pm to
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I'd like to know if someone I'm hiring is okay with breaking laws.


How often do you drive over the speed limit? Which is more dangerous to yourself and others, driving over the speed limit or smoking pot?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40991 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:10 pm to
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The weed will still be in my system. I would fail a drug test.


See above post.

I think all drugs should be legal, so I'm not hating on anybody, but reality is having drugs in your system on the job isn't going to fly, ever.
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16413 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:11 pm to
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So to combat this issue, we have stopped drug testing employees. Genius!


Sounds like progress to me. We are almost approaching a sane and logical state when it comes to this.
Posted by Vestigial Morgan
Member since Apr 2016
3048 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:12 pm to
Lol... Pot is the most harmless drug and the only people who still hate it are the bible thumping ol timers who don't know any better.

No, those of us that have service deadline/agreements for responses and quality hate it. It may not be meth, but it affects consistency and customer experience. It sounds like many are of the...it's no big deal, but would probably chew out some manager who I'd short staffed because two waiters couldn't make it in. Or theirmortgage app is taking to long or too mistake ridden
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175646 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:13 pm to
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I'd like to know if someone I'm hiring is okay with breaking laws.

Would you disqualify someone if they had a couple speeding tickets on their record?
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:13 pm to
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Employers Can't Find Enough Workers For shite Jobs Who Can Pass Drug Tests



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Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16413 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:14 pm to
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No, those of us that have service deadline/agreements for responses and quality hate it. It may not be meth, but it affects consistency and customer experience. It sounds like many are of the...it's no big deal, but would probably chew out some manager who I'd short staffed because two waiters couldn't make it in. Or theirmortgage app is taking to long or too mistake ridden


Jesus fricking Christ. You people seriously amaze me sometimes.
Posted by Womski
Squire Creek
Member since Aug 2011
2762 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:15 pm to
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Unless you are flying planes or handling explosives, why should you have to pass a drug test?

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I'm all for legality, but is this a serious question?

Yea it's a serious question. I got out of flying because the FAA kept creeping in on having alcohol in your system the day AFTER you drank. Sorry, but I didn't learn to fly jets for a living to listen to arm-chair aviators trying to legislate my cockpit. And for the record, yes there were pilots I flew with who drank even in the pilot's lounge, and were some of the best natural sticks I ever witnessed. Never phased them.

Drugs take a different effect on the body and can really affect reaction times in certain situations, like a multi-axis approach-to-landing. I firmly believe there is a difference in flying an airplane down to minimums with a pot-head versus a guy who has been drinking his whole adult life and can handle it.

But, I digress. Being an attorney now affords me two luxuries. I get to wear suspenders, and I get to keep a bottle of scotch within arm's reach without looking over my shoulder everyday.

Cheers, men
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40991 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:18 pm to
If lawyers were drug tested we'd lose 1/3 of the field.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16413 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:18 pm to
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So you want pot heads running chemical plants and refineries?


What is a pot head? Why would the termination of testing = potheads are running this ship now. "Do you guys really want that??!!! Oh the horror!!??" I wouldn't want an alcoholic running shite for me either, and he can show up completely hungover and actually inhibit or injure someone do to his physical state the next day, but he would be able to easily pass a fricking drug test. You think someone that smokes a joint the night before when he gets home from work is as much of a danger or any danger at all to anyone around him the next day? Here's a hint, he's not. Here's another hint, a lot of professionals that you trust/work for/work with/associate with/guide you already do smoke weed to unwind on occasion. You just don't know it.
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 2:20 pm
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:18 pm to
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No, those of us that have service deadline/agreements for responses and quality hate it. It may not be meth, but it affects consistency and customer experience.


I like to smoke pot and drink beer on the weekends. You actually think my weekend pot smoking has any measurable effect on how I perform my job??
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:18 pm to
No doubt the software development industry would collapse if they all started drug testing
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