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re: Employee Complains: "Company bases promotions on merit instead of experience"
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:14 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:14 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Well, for one, raises being based on merit instead of seniority
Ah..... I see you are a lazy union worker yourself.
Let me help you out. Seniority does not equal value.
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Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:17 pm to dale10
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Let me help you out. Seniority does not equal value.
Let me help you out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:18 pm to Dont_Call_Me_RAY
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merit
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:22 pm to OKellsBells
Yet you repeated it.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:23 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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TigerstuckinMS
You don't know what you are talking about. I give raises where deserved. My employees all make more than the national average (including admin). Range: $55K to $96K, ave $78K.
Yes, I do my best to make sure there is not fat so that the customer pays best market value. I'm not in this to artificially inflate salaries/wages and pass that on to the customer; that is what the government loves so they get a raise too.
Don't come to me with that "evil company" bullshite son, take it somewhere else.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:23 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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when you raise your prices to your customers to compensate for inflation, you then turn around and frick your employees by not giving them a commensurate cut
Not quite.
First off, inflation in the US isn't 3-5%, it's more like 2%.
Second, a business isn't a charity. The ones who I want to keep, sure I'll give them more money. But the average Joe I'm not going to worry much about. Maybe his replacement will do better work and deserve the raise.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:24 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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To ask them to overperform
Where did this come from? Why are merit based salary decisions tied to overperformance? Merit could be doing your job satisfactorily. But if you scrape the gutter, and do minimal work so you don't get fired you think they are entitled to increased comp just because of inflation? Damn Commies.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:25 pm to foshizzle
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First off, inflation in the US isn't 3-5%, it's more like 2%
That is "core inflation" and it excludes energy prices to be fair
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:30 pm to OKellsBells
I don't know how that happened.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:34 pm to OKellsBells
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I don't know how that happened.
Haha, it's usually page 3 that it happens. But it seems we have some entitlement baws that jumped the gun.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:34 pm to Dont_Call_Me_RAY
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Don't come to me with that "evil company" bullshite son, take it somewhere else.
1) First off, Ray, I'm not your son.
2) I didn't mean to imply evil, Ray. I meant to imply that to tie cost-of-living to merit, in the context that if I maintain status quo I don't get to keep up my standard of living, is short-sighted, Ray.
3) Nothing artificial about wages needing to rise to track inflation, Ray. If your business won't do it and others will, it's eventually going to bite back in terms of the quality of employee that can be attracted and retained, Ray.
4) I enjoy calling you Ray.
This post was edited on 5/6/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:35 pm to foshizzle
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Second, a business isn't a charity.
Neither is the labor pool. Works both ways.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:40 pm to TigerstuckinMS
If I tie any wage increase to COL, I'm subject to have average employees that expect a raise every year for performing at an average rate. No thank you.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:40 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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If your business won't do it and others will, it's eventually going to bite back in terms of the quality of employee that can be attracted and retained, Ray.
Been in business a long time and completely understand the value of employee retention, but not slacker retention or automatic COLA based on a heartbeat.
You can call me Ray.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:40 pm to TigerstuckinMS
quote:no. It really doesn't
Neither is the labor pool. Works both ways
A little thought on the subject is all it takes to clear that up
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:42 pm to Dont_Call_Me_RAY
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You can call me Ray.
It's not as much fun that way, Ray.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 2:24 pm to ShortyRob
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"Company bases promotions on merit instead of experience"
It has always been my opinion that both should be used for promotions. I have seen it too many times where it has back fired using just one or the other. A employee can have a boat load of qualifications but without much experience these people often fail. Same for employees that have experience but little else. These tend to struggle with changing job situations. There is no perfect formula for promotions in these situations. Each position and employee must be evaluated for the position that is being filled.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 3:23 pm to TigerstuckinMS
COL/inflation raises are crucial and should be separate from merit.
If you don't get inflation raises you're essentially getting a pay cut every year.
If you don't get inflation raises you're essentially getting a pay cut every year.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 3:34 pm to TheCaterpillar
So if cost of living goes down one year, the employees should expect a pay cut? And be cool with it?
Posted on 5/6/17 at 3:36 pm to ShortyRob
That sounds like a female minority
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