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re: El Paso Walmart mass shooting - now 22 dead

Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42241 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:40 pm to
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Just watched Betos interview. What an idiot.


Any politician is going to do that. Had it been an illegal immigrant a Republican would already be using it to push for more wall. And I’m a Republican. Don’t be a hypocrite or naive.
This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 9:41 pm
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:41 pm to
Exactly.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:41 pm to
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The murder rate in the US is twice that if India


How's the death from worms though?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36751 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:42 pm to
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We murder at a higher rate here with a lesser population.


They all practice religion. They aren’t as free as we are. And about a billion other reasons contribute to this that all make sense
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:42 pm to
That may be your best post ever. You should stick to that instead of some of the bullshite you like to post. That’s a compliment btw.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:42 pm to
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And I don't give two fricks, if you're too broke to afford a safe or lockable gun case don't own a gun.


I've never understood this idea. Don't people own guns to protect against home invasions? What good does a gun do me in a safe?

I'm similarly confused by safety rules that involve unloading guns, keeping the ammunition separate from the gun, and so on.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:44 pm to
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e murder at a higher rate here with a lesser population.

Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38420 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:44 pm to
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And that’s probably why we differ on this matter and I respect you for your views given those points.


They reinforced my belief, but didn’t start it. I just believe upmost in personal responsibility.

I try to utilize logic over emotion.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:44 pm to
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Did Obama say 1st graders were bad people and a threat to the livelihood of all US citizens?


Then Obama is responsible for Dallas and Baton Rouge by this logic.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:45 pm to
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I have several times, but my old job took me to less describable parts of south Louisiana.


So. It’s also a factor of where you live. I live in NOVA. It doesn’t get much safer than it is here. And by here I mean anywhere in the world. Different places. Different perspectives.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:45 pm to
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That may be your best post ever. You should stick to that instead of some of the bullshite you like to post. That’s a compliment btw.


Don't get used to it.

I'm trying to think of something crass and obnoxious to say. I'll get back to you.

Oh and i didn't check but you better have coughed up a frickin' upvote.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:47 pm to
I did man. And another. Lol
Posted by NorthTiger
Upper 40
Member since Jan 2004
3965 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:47 pm to
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What mental disorders should be on the “no gun” list? . quote: who decides if the person is well enough?


I’m a licensed mental health professional with 42 years of experience which doesn’t make me an expert. I’m just a little more informed then the average citizen..

Remember the name Eric Harris, one of the Columbine shooters. He was a budding sociopath. That’s not even a diagnosable mental illness.

If you restrict gun ownership to anyone with a diagnosable mental illness consider the following stat. that has been consistent for decades. Individuals with a mental illness are 7 times more likely to be the victim of violence than the general population.

As for determining danger to self or others, that is always a “point in time” determination. A person can be suicidal or homicidal one day and not the next, much less three months down the road. The converse is true. A person can not pose a threat today but become a threat later. Do we want mental status exams every day?
This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 10:00 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122072 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:48 pm to
What causes
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dysfunction of personality.
?
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:50 pm to
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quote:
dysfunction of personality.

?


Personality disorders are best described as disorders of who you are as a human being.
This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 10:00 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63255 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:50 pm to
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I also carry dental insurance and I've never had to use it. Doesn't make it not useful.
My house has never burned down...you can’t buy insurance after the fact.

It’s always odd to me people suggest that the best time to fight for fundamental rights is after you’ve lost them. It’s always better to hold onto your right than to reclaim them from oppressors.

And for all we hear about “white male oppression” in our society today.. the actual would-be oppressors in today’s society are those that would do things ban firearms or ban “hate speech” or force bakers to bake cakes against their will.
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
25467 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:50 pm to
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What good does a gun do me in a safe?


There are relatively inexpensive quick access gun safes available. Mine is attached to my nightstand and I can have access to my gun within seconds with a 6 digit pin (they also have biometric fingerprint scanners) if there is a home invasion. Any gun owner that has one for self defense should own one, especially if they have kids.
Posted by Sanfordhog
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2016
479 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:52 pm to
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Did Obama call BR and Dallas victims animals? It’s too late to start pretending Trump isn’t bringing racist POS, like this shooter, out of the woodwork. Trumps rhetoric has consequences and this is one example.

“We have people coming into the country or trying to come in, we're stopping a lot of them, but we're taking people out of the country. You wouldn't believe how bad these people are," Trump said.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:52 pm to
So? What works?

People get pissed off. Kill a spouse. Kill someone in a drug deal gone bad. Whatever. It happens. There’s no stopping it and a gun doesn’t matter. They’ll stab, strangle, bludgeon. Doesn’t matter.

But these mass shootings? Where do they come into the equation? America is the only country that seems to have this problem on a regular basis.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:54 pm to
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I’m a licensed mental health professional with 42 years of experience which doesn’t make me an expert. I’m just a little more informed then the average citizen.. 

Remember the name Eric Harris, one of the Columbine shooters. He was a budding sociopath. That’s not even a diagnosable mental illness. 

If you restrict gun ownership to anyone with a diagnosable mental illness consider the following stat. that has been consistent for decades. Individuals with a mental illness are 7 times more likely to be the victim of violence than the general population. 

As for determining danger to self or others that is always a “point in time” determination. A person can be suicidal or homicidal be day and nit the next much less three months down the road. The converse is true. A person can not pose a threat today but become a threat later. Do we want mental status exams every day?





You're on point with all of that except this. "Remember the name Eric Harris, one of the Columbine shooters. He was a budding sociopath. That’s not even a diagnosable mental illness." 


It is diagnosable and of course it would be an axis II diagnosis. The traits are quite specific. In children and teenagers anti-social traits are characterized as conduct disorder. In adults, it becomes anti-social personality disorder.
This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 9:55 pm
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