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re: EBR Bus drivers threatening sick out without a raise
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:54 am to Death Before Disco
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:54 am to Death Before Disco
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They couldn't figure that shite out before school started?
Can’t use your kids as leverage before school starts.
i'm always surprised at the number of folks who don't understand negotiating tactics.
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:57 am to OysterPoBoy
When i went to school, the school owned the buses (private school). There were a few "mean" bus drivers, but it paid to have that rep. The kids were well behaved for the most part. I don't recall there ever being fist fights on the bus, outside a handful of times, and it never escalated past 1 punch or a shove before the bus driver stopped the bus. Also, there was a no tolerance on some busses and if you fought, you were kicked off the bus and couldn't ride again.
Maybe EBR parish busses should adopt a zero tolerance standard on busses like they do schools?
Maybe EBR parish busses should adopt a zero tolerance standard on busses like they do schools?
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:12 am to BugAC
requirements to be a bus driver
requirements to be a teacher
I hope teachers in this state do a sick out
requirements to be a teacher
I hope teachers in this state do a sick out
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:16 am to BugAC
I don't think my kids have ever been on a school bus.
Private schools for the most part don't want to pay what it would cost. Insurance is a big cost driver.
Private schools for the most part don't want to pay what it would cost. Insurance is a big cost driver.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:21 am to BugAC
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So, let's say the mean average is 26k/year to drive a bus. Not only did they significantly get a raise last night, but add that to the fact that they work what, 4 hours/day? 20 hours/week and they work what maybe 9 months out of the year not including off time for holidays?
price gauging and greed.
I mean if we get to label everything else as this, why are bus drivers exempt?
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:21 am to Locoguan0
We may be approaching the end of school busing for pick up and drop off.
I know people all over the country and no matter where you go, people are talking about a lack of bus drivers, delayed pick up and drop off, etc.
I know here in St Bernard they just posted they are paying 23 an hour plus benefits plus if you need to be trained they will pay for all of that, and they have absolutely no takers.
I live in a corner house and we are the bus stop for elementary, middle, and high school. 3 times in the morning, and 3 times in the afternoon, I can hear the kids screaming on the bus, and the driver screaming at the kids.
I know people all over the country and no matter where you go, people are talking about a lack of bus drivers, delayed pick up and drop off, etc.
I know here in St Bernard they just posted they are paying 23 an hour plus benefits plus if you need to be trained they will pay for all of that, and they have absolutely no takers.
I live in a corner house and we are the bus stop for elementary, middle, and high school. 3 times in the morning, and 3 times in the afternoon, I can hear the kids screaming on the bus, and the driver screaming at the kids.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:22 am to LegendInMyMind
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They couldn't figure that shite out before school started?
Some new drivers have probably already quit.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:23 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:$23 an hour for a part time job dealing with St. Bernard public school kids… can’t imagine why they’re not overwhelmed with applications
know here in St Bernard they just posted they are paying 23 an hour plus benefits plus if you need to be trained they will pay for all of that, and they have absolutely no takers.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:23 am to BugAC
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Someone who wants to make $30-50 an hour working part time 20 hours/week.
That’s a big range and if the pay is that high bus drivers would be lining up to drive buses.
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They got a 6 hour gap between shifts. More flexible than any private sector job.
But the hours aren’t flexible,tgry sre set in stone.
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Really. You need a CDL and pass a background check. Minimal requirements for such a high paying job. Pipe fitters, laborers, roofers require more skill than a bud driver and don’t get paid as much, nor do they have benefits.
Then why aren’t they lining up to drive buses? EBR isn’t the only parish having issues. It’s just the parish that paid the least.
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So the strike isn’t about money, but about public schooling guidelines. Maybe that’s what they should be demanding and not “give me more money”.
Would it do any good?
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:24 am to MikeBRLA
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Why would a “veteran” driver make so much more than the rookie? They are doing the exact same job.
This is how any state/government job works. 
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:30 am to BugAC
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Fire them all and private contract out the job. It will be cheaper and you'll have better quality.
For several years I used to have a client that owned a private school bus company. Eventually they were bought out by a larger copmany so they no longer needed me.
If you think this is a situation where the private sector is better than the public sector, you are sadly mistaken.
They both are dealing with the same lack of drivers, same lack of discipline and showing up on time with said drivers, insane insurance and accident issues, etc.
Because the real issue is... no one wants to drive around these misbehaving bad kids.
And yes while it's also 4-5 hrs a day... it kind of prevents you from doing any other kind of work unless you are self-employed and very flexible. So you are getting the quality of employee that only wants to work 4-5 hours a day.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:34 am to LSUFanHouston
Call up the national guard to drive the buses.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:35 am to BugAC
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"They only get 22k/year", nevermind the $14k that just got approved last night for them.
SO you are saying last night their pay went from 22K to 36K. Well, no it didn't. Becuase it's a one time stipend, not a raise. It's basically a bribe to keep them on the job today.
But the same issue is going to happen next year, and the next, and the next, etc.
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You can get another job to fill the 6 hour gap and make a very good living.
Taking a shift at McDonalds? Is that really who we want driving our busses? Start the route before 7 am, then hand out fries, then an afternoon shift?
No, it's a good part time job for retirees and old coaches and stuff. But none of them want to put up with the BS lack of discipline among the kids, and the lack of the school district to deal with it.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:40 am to doubleb
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So the strike isn’t about money, but about public schooling guidelines. Maybe that’s what they should be demanding and not “give me more money”.
They know that ain't happening, so they want hazard pay instead.
It's honestly time to probably just give up busing. You want to have kids, figure out a way to get them to and from school each day.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:45 am to whoa
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This is how any state/government job works.
And? That doesn’t mean it makes sense.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:46 am to LSUFanHouston
Starting pay is $19k.
Average pay is $22k.
Several stipends were passed. Two issues, that teachers are wrestling with as well..
A stipend is not a pay raise. Every stipend passed says, "contingent on availability of funds". You can't plan your life around that clause. Board members even said that they don't want to pass a salary increase because they aren't sure where they will be fiscally in the next year or two. ESSER funds (CoVID) will be gone, so that is a $60m cut to the district budget.
Conditions on buses are atrocious. This isn't the bus you rode in school. Kids assault drivers on a a daily basis, their right to demand discipline for misbehaving children has been removed, and they are being asked to run multiple extra routes to make up for shortages, yet aren't getting more pay.
Combine this with headlines about FedEx drives making six figures, and why would anyone drive a bus?
Average pay is $22k.
Several stipends were passed. Two issues, that teachers are wrestling with as well..
A stipend is not a pay raise. Every stipend passed says, "contingent on availability of funds". You can't plan your life around that clause. Board members even said that they don't want to pass a salary increase because they aren't sure where they will be fiscally in the next year or two. ESSER funds (CoVID) will be gone, so that is a $60m cut to the district budget.
Conditions on buses are atrocious. This isn't the bus you rode in school. Kids assault drivers on a a daily basis, their right to demand discipline for misbehaving children has been removed, and they are being asked to run multiple extra routes to make up for shortages, yet aren't getting more pay.
Combine this with headlines about FedEx drives making six figures, and why would anyone drive a bus?
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:49 am to MikeBRLA
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And? That doesn’t mean it makes sense.
You think the new guy starting at the company should be paid as much as you?
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:52 am to Pintail
quote:Well if that’s true let them walk and they will have the busses still rolling no problem right?
My god a sickout when you are that replaceable.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:52 am to Locoguan0
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They are short 50 drivers and 100 buses...
Explain this to me. 1 driver per bus, right? So right now they have 50 extra drivers without a bus to drive? I realize there must be a few backups/spares but why would they need 50 more buses than drivers?
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:54 am to notiger1997
quote:Is this a Nola thing? All the private Catholic schools used busses in br and a shite ton of kids used them
Private schools for the most part don't want to pay what it would cost.
St. Aloysius had like 10 busses alone when I was there
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