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re: Duck Dynasty Fans Please Explain: How Can They Sell Wine in Good Faith?

Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:32 am to
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
5070 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:32 am to
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What does God define as drunk? What if God defines drunk as being in any sort of altered consciouness? Your body is a temple for God, it should never be in an altered state nor should it be desecrated.


Because of Psalm 104:15 it would be hard for me to say that having any type of altered conscience state is drunkenness. But because of Ephesians 5:18 it seems I never need to let alcohol effect me to the point where the holy sprit can't guide my conscience. Where that line is is up to the Christian and their conscience as it is guided by the Holy Spirit. To me that is much less dangerous the setting a hard and fast rule that all must follow which would go against Colossians 2:22.
This post was edited on 11/23/16 at 10:37 am
Posted by IvanCCCP
U.S.A.
Member since Oct 2016
698 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:32 am to
Bc Jesus turned water into wine?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102284 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:33 am to
Heavy taxpayer subsidies. They're the biggest welfare recipients in the state.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45674 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:34 am to
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most christians believe alcohol is ok in moderation


As of recently yes. But I grew up in a baptist church, grandfather was a minister, and the other was a deacon.

I can tell you for a fact that Southern Baptist churches do not serve wine in church and frown upon drinking for the most part. Although many of the newer age churches have stated its fine in moderation. Nondenominational churches are different.

There is a large difference in beliefs between each faction of Christianity.

This post was edited on 11/23/16 at 10:38 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55418 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:35 am to
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DupontsCircle


You have still failed to tell me where making alcohol (which is a natural occurrence, BTW) is equitable to being a drunkard. I'll wait....
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:38 am to
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Duck Commander's cheap, Walmart line of vino -- which goes for $9.99.


If that ain't country...

9.99 isn't really that cheap. Especially not for Duck Commander wine.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13132 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:39 am to
Phil Robertson ran around on his wife and blames alcohol and the devil. Doesn't fully accept responsibility to himself, I have little respect for the man.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:41 am to
There's a reason so many half-assed reality TV shows come out of LA.

1) Reality TV is dirt cheap to make (especially before the stars get "big."), thus networks just churn different ones until something sticks.

2) Filming credits in LA make already cheap projects really viable.

3) The rest of the nation has a weird fascination with parts of LA.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
10827 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:43 am to
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Because their entire persona is fabricated? They lived most of their lives as rich New England yuppies they ain't these good ol baws they pretend to be.

So I take it you don't know them. They are far from yuppies though they aren't the white trash persona they are broadcasted as on the show, they are very much a typical upper middle class Ouachita Parish family. Up in WOh they are actually high class, but defintiely not yuppies either.

To the OP, Phil and Alan are the only two I know that don't drink, but that is due to past addictions and not personal beliefs. The Bible warns of the temptation and effects of over consumption by the Church and preaches abstaining by a priest/pastor/reverend/ preacher and not over-consuming by church leaders/deacons. I don't see the problem with it tbh, but to each their own. I grew up in a conservative Baptist home and know that any consumption is sin as a sin by a lot of Baptist, so I guess I can understand the assumption of hypocrisy by some.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:43 am to
Two Buck Chuck can still be gotten for ~$2.79 and is probably better.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:48 am to
DD and Swamp People are staged and scripted....the only people that watch those show are unintelligent, simple minded very impressionable losers
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:49 am to
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Two Buck Chuck can still be gotten for ~$2.79 and is probably better.


Exactly what I was thinking.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:50 am to
At this point does anyone not know that reality tv is scripted?

Ultimately the reason the format is so successful is due to the economics more than anything else though.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
10891 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:50 am to
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3) The rest of the nation has a weird fascination with parts of LA.


It's like watching a train wreck.
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
5070 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:51 am to
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Phil Robertson ran around on his wife and blames alcohol and the devil. Doesn't fully accept responsibility to himself, I have little respect for the man.


Does the fact that he changed his life not show that he accepted responsibility? I've never understood how folks like you criticisize a Christian for a bad past. The very foundation of our faith is the acknowledgment that we are needy sinners in need of forgiveness and change.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:52 am to
I have met lawyers from other states that have asked me whether I took an airboat to school.

These are working professionals with post-grad degrees. It amazes me every time.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36270 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:57 am to
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DD and Swamp People are staged and scripted....the only people that watch those show are unintelligent, simple minded very impressionable losers



I've watched both for entertainment, but if all the people on SP wearing the same exact shite for years so they can edit the show however they need to doesn't tip people off, nothing will
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68699 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:01 am to
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I can tell you for a fact that Southern Baptist churches


do you know why Baptist don't make love standing up?




because someone may see them and think they're dancing
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
6920 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:05 am to
Republicans don't drink wine?
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:09 am to
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Phil Robertson ran around on his wife and blames alcohol and the devil. Doesn't fully accept responsibility to himself, I have little respect for the man.


Derrrrrrrrrrrp

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