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re: Drug testing welfare recipients shows the vast majority are clean
Posted on 2/19/16 at 4:46 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Posted on 2/19/16 at 4:46 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Arizona was the first state to impose a testing program. In 2009, it began testing new welfare recipients when there was a "reasonable cause" to suspect illicit drug use. So how many of the 87,000 people subjected to the program have tested positive since then?
Just one..but why?
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The biggest reason is likely the way Arizona determines "reasonable cause." Essentially, the state asks new recipients whether they've used drugs in the past 30 days, and only those who answer yes are tested. With no penalty for lying, a couple of dozen owned up. Of those, several tested negative; the rest failed to take the test.
Seems about right.
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 4:58 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Great news. Should still keep testing
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:04 pm to SECMAN16
Don't bring facts into this. It doesn't fit the agenda.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:05 pm to Tiger Hoods
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so there still Lazy as shite with no drugs
You are why I support planned parenthood
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:30 pm to LSUTANGERINE
So the majority got pretty good and learning the secrets to passing these tests. Clever of them
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:35 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Just to play Saban's advocate, it could be that the testing has two effects: deterring applicants from using drugs and deterring junkies from applying. If that's the case the program is working.
If it turns out that they're spending more on testing than they're saving by cutting off dopeheads, it's a water. But you can't make that conclusion off those numbers without additional context.
If it turns out that they're spending more on testing than they're saving by cutting off dopeheads, it's a water. But you can't make that conclusion off those numbers without additional context.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 9:29 pm to LSUTANGERINE
You are the definition of a SJW with white guilt.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 9:34 pm to LSUTANGERINE
What they didn't tell you in the article is that of the 7600 Screened only less than 100 were actually tested. Of those less than 100 tested about 20 came back positive and several others were no shows.
The applicants were visually screened by a social worker to see who she thought should be tested. This article is complete bullshite
ETA:
Article on NC results
The applicants were visually screened by a social worker to see who she thought should be tested. This article is complete bullshite
ETA:
Article on NC results
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 2/19/16 at 9:46 pm to roadGator
Way off base brah.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 9:46 pm to Dead End
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You are the definition of a SJW with white guilt.
WHat does this topic of drug testing welfare recipients have to do with race?
Posted on 2/19/16 at 9:48 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Your ban hook is a bit too shiny
ETA: I'm trying to decide who I find more entertaining you or StrongSafety. At least SS came off as pretty intelligent so sometimes he started actual intelligent conversation. You are more pathetically craving attention entertaining.
ETA: I'm trying to decide who I find more entertaining you or StrongSafety. At least SS came off as pretty intelligent so sometimes he started actual intelligent conversation. You are more pathetically craving attention entertaining.
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:46 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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WHat does this topic of drug testing welfare recipients have to do with race?
You're constantly pushing excuses for "minorities" or whatever SJW group makes you feel superior.
Why would anyone be against testing handout applicants for drug use?
I work for a living and I'm drug tested so 20% of my check can go to a lazy POS that works the system.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 11:49 pm to LSUTANGERINE
100% bullshite. These stats wouldn't be accurate if it took a cross section of non welfare recipients. I don't believe this bullshite from VOX. VOX is garbage. VOX is a sensationalistic liberal leaning rag. These statistics are completely bogus.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 11:53 pm to LSUTANGERINE
What poster here is likely on stamps and drugs?
Posted on 2/20/16 at 12:03 am to Dead End
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Why would anyone be against testing handout applicants for drug use?
I am for drug testing, if done right. The goons who did this only tested people who previously stated they used drugs and they knew they were going to be tested well in advance.
Posted on 2/20/16 at 12:09 am to LSUTANGERINE
I'm against it. If we're giving people money, we're giving them money. I don't care what they do with it.
Need to drop welfare and replace with "guaranteed income." Kill all the govt. programs and it's bureaucracy and just send out a check every month. If we're going to have social welfare, it's the best possible method.
Need to drop welfare and replace with "guaranteed income." Kill all the govt. programs and it's bureaucracy and just send out a check every month. If we're going to have social welfare, it's the best possible method.
Posted on 2/20/16 at 3:48 pm to HMTVBrian2
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What a waste of time and money
Truly conservative values at work right here
I agree, having people in your country that won't survive without the help of the government is a waste of money.
Posted on 2/20/16 at 3:56 pm to LSUTANGERINE
quote:Wait. You're pretending that you didn't start this thread to proclaim, "look! Minorities don't do as many drugs as you evil white people think......?" Wow
I am for drug testing, if done right. The goons who did this only tested people who previously stated they used drugs and they knew they were going to be tested well in advance.
Posted on 2/20/16 at 4:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I agree. Why waste money drug testing these people? So we feel better that they're clean? I mean, who gives a shite?
I'm against it. If we're giving people money, we're giving them money. I don't care what they do with it.
Need to drop welfare and replace with "guaranteed income." Kill all the govt. programs and it's bureaucracy and just send out a check every month. If we're going to have social welfare, it's the best possible method.
Figure out who actually needs help. Determine how much they need. And give it to them.
Posted on 2/20/16 at 4:23 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Drug testing welfare recipients shows the vast majority are clean
Of course....when you let them know when the test will be.
Show up at the door unannounced and hand them the cup. 90% will fail.
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