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re: Drug testing welfare recipients shows the vast majority are clean

Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:12 am to
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:12 am to
just like voter fraud, i don't care if it's "not" happening or is very minimal.

i like something to be in place to test it, in case it is.
Posted by musick
the internet
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26131 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:12 am to
To be fair you are right.

They have 100s of entire products and companies dedicated to passing urine screens.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85538 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:12 am to
I think it's been shown repeatedly that drug testing welfare folks is a money losing proposition. The people who still want to do it want it as a matter of principle.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30970 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:13 am to
Welfare shouldn't exist. Dog eat dog world where the strongest survive. That's how nature ordered it.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61793 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:13 am to
Shiiit
Next thing you are going to do is piss off the OT and tell them that they aren't all black either. LOL
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:13 am to
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In Arizona, more than 87,000 welfare recipients went through drug testing and only one person tested positive, USA Today reports.


Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:13 am to
crack and meth are out of you system after a few days, so...
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85538 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:18 am to
Those stats are impossible to believe but I think Florida also lost money doing this. I assume the tests aren't random Bc in any chunk population there will plenty who at least smoke pot.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
26331 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:19 am to
So waste money bro?
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
26331 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:19 am to
This just in: drugs are expensive
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:21 am to
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Drug testing welfare recipients shows the vast majority are clean


One major detail that is left out is, are these randomly scheduled or do the recipients know about it months in advance.

Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:21 am to
Lol.
quote:

Shiiit Next thing you are going to do is piss off the OT and tell them that they aren't

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Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
37025 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:21 am to
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Pretty surprising.


A piss test is easy to beat, especially when you have kids who can help.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112584 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:22 am to
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In Arizona, more than 87,000 welfare recipients went through drug testing and only one person tested positive, USA Today reports.
And this report is supposed to be taken serious? That is an impossible stat.
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 10:23 am
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
37025 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:23 am to
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They have 100s of entire products and companies dedicated to passing urine screens.


None are as affective as having your kid piss in a bottle for you that is wrapped with hand warmers.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32729 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:23 am to
quote:

So waste money bro?



as opposed to EPA testing regulations, carbon monoxide tests, IRS audits, CBOs, breathalyzers, etc.?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61793 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:26 am to
I think drug testing them is stupid. It just adds more beacraucy into state gov. and testing is not cheap. You aren't really accomplishing or saving much when you catch someone anyway.
And yes, those that work have to get drug tested bubba and there is a reason for that generally. It's so you don't hurt someone at the jobsite or that the employer knows they have a good employee.

If you want to do something that matters and cost billions of dollars in real money, go after people on disability that shouldn't be. Fine their asses and get back money they didn't deserve. Fine the stupid arse doctors and shrinks who allowed them to get onto disability also.

End of rant.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:29 am to
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In Arizona, more than 87,000 welfare recipients went through drug testing and only one person tested positive,


This shows without ANY possible doubt that the testing was flawed beyond belief. Anyone that believes one person out of 87,000 tested positive must have the IQ of an ant.

ETA: I just read more into it and saw that 87,000 were not tested. Looking at how they ran the program I would guess no more than 10 people at most were actually tested.
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 10:33 am
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12803 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:31 am to
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In Arizona, more than 87,000 welfare recipients went through drug testing and only one person tested positive


Seriously - lets hear more about that guy. i want to know more about the ONE person that cant pass it.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22670 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:31 am to
Let them do all the drugs they want, the harder the better. Just halt all subsidizing of medical services for anyone who can't pay for it and the poors who abuse the system in that way will die off with the quickness.

Also, stop giving anyone money or credits to go out and buy their own food and find their own housing; poors do not deserve to make their own choices with my money; they obviously haven't chosen wisely with their own.

Set them up in giant floating hangars lined with bunks off the coast in the Gulf of Mexico. Feed them one bowl of gruel per person twice a day and have potable water accesible. Provided for entertainment and edification are books and trade and STEM classes, as well as facilities for individual, non-team oriented athletic pursuits. Poors tend to revert to apish behavior when allowed to participate in physically competitive team-based activities.

Contract Planned Parenthood to set up on-site facilities and have quarterly promotional abortion events. This is one exception I am willing to concede as a deviation from my restriction on tax-payer subsidized medical treatments. Well, that and voluntary euthenasia obviously.


Being a lecherous cretin is far too comfortable a pursuit these days.
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 10:56 am
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