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re: Dr. Boz says Ozempic should NOT be used for weight loss.

Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:18 pm to
They don’t need a lab result.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:19 pm to
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They don’t need a lab result.




You really need to stop posting
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:19 pm to
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Dr Boz has been found guilty on 12 felony accounts.



Fify



I had to look this up because I knew nothing of this. But these charges surround her senate run in South Dakota.

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The South Dakota Supreme Court has cleared a Sioux Falls doctor who ran unsuccessfully for the U.S. Senate of six felony perjury charges, but upheld felony convictions for verifying she had personally circulated the petitions to get her name on the ballot when she had not.


LINK
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 2:26 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56432 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:22 pm to
So how are you getting a drug that is covered for pre diabetes covered? Just asking?
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32588 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:30 pm to
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The risk of losing too much muscle mass can be detrimental to your overall health.



"Just stay fat and take the pills that Big Pharma pays me to I prescribe you."
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85073 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:30 pm to
One tactic is research trials.
Posted by MaxxPain2
Member since Oct 2021
706 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:32 pm to
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I’ll wait to hear from Dr Dre before forming an opinion.


I prefer to take all of my medical advice from Dr. J
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56432 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:34 pm to
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One tactic is research trials.
the research trials aren’t being prescribed by your local doc. Additionally thst prob makes up like .001 percent of people taking it.

2021. Like a quarter million scripts.

2022. Over 5 million.

That’s a metric shite ton of new trials of a drug out in the market. Lol
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 2:37 pm
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
36227 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:37 pm to
My doctor told me it is not approved for use for weight loss, but doctors are just going rogue and prescribing it to anyone who is willing to pay. I was on Ozempic for three years to manage my diabetes and even though I’m not overweight, I didn’t lose a single pound, but I switched to Mounjaro earlier this year and I have dropped a little bit of weight and am almost never hungry. If I was going to be a rich douche and overpay for a weight loss shot, it would be that one.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85073 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:37 pm to
Nope. These aren’t just weight loss trials. You could have “low” A1C that’s not even out of range and they can put you on it.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56432 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:38 pm to
You are grasping. We are talking a tiny tiny fraction of total oriole on the drug.

And there are very few new trials.

5 million. If there were 100 new trials you aren’t scratching the total number.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85073 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:39 pm to
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your local doc.
Rarely exist. Most people go to the big providers now. Big groups all with research arms or with an association with them.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30606 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:40 pm to
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Perdue pharma and the Oxycontin sales force used to rely on this paradigm, too.

Not to mention almost every doctor pushing Covid “vaccines”
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48860 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:40 pm to
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And so are the patients who are suckered into regular visits and injections which is exactly what the doctor and pharma execs want instead of someone who takes care of themselves.


At about $1k a month the percentage of people staying on this indefinitely is small.

Some will change lifestyle some won’t. Many that lose large amounts of weight do make changes. Good for them.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33186 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:40 pm to
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Docs make sure insurance covers btw. You obviously don’t know what’s going on.



Nearly everyone I know who takes Ozempic or Mounjaro paid for it out of pocket. All are women who gained 40-60 lbs over the last 5 years. They went to an initial consult Dr visit, injected themselves weekly and went back to the doctor once a month for bloodwork and general checkup before the refill was prescribed.

Most were off the injections for weight loss after 6 months and now inject a small maintenance dose weekly. The majority of these women play tennis 3-5 times a week and continued to do so throughout their injections. Age range is 40-60 years old. All are extremely happy with their decision to take the injections and the weight they lost. Zero cases of gut issues or cancer.

ETA Going rate for out of pocket here seems to be $3200 for 4 months of prescription, needles and alcohol wipes, monthly Dr visits and weekly injections if you want them to do it instead of you.

This is obviously discussed a lot court side.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 2:43 pm
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
30256 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:42 pm to
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I'm on the opposite side. Mandatory ozempic injections for people above a certain BMI/BF%. I'm tired of my health insurance being high to amputate your foot and pay for your STEMIs


I'm not one to body shame anyone else- but morbidly obese pt's are part of the reason I am branching out away from the bedside. when 400lb pts is the rule and not the exception- it's a bit too much.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21056 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:43 pm to
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She has been featured on CNN, Time, US News & World Report, Fox News,


None of this is the ringing endorsement she believes it is...
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98273 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:47 pm to
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Ozempic is stolen valor


I actually think this has a lot to do with the hostility toward it. Just wait til they have a drug that makes you jacked without working out and has minimal known side effects.
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3506 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:47 pm to
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ny moron listening to advice of any kind from Tik Tok deserves whatever bullshite results from it.



Those are the same people that loved to throw out "horse dewormer" a couple years ago.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85073 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:48 pm to
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Going rate for out of pocket here seems to be $3200 for 4 months of prescription, needles and alcohol wipes, monthly Dr visits and weekly injections if you want them to do it instead of you.
Nah. Lnchbox said it was a cheap as a membership when out of pocket…
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