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re: Does this picture depict murder or suicide?

Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:00 pm to
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:00 pm to
Murder.

In addition to being left handed, the gun was placed in her hand after the fact. Per Deputy Marshal Raylan Givens, the gun just tumbles out of your hand when you shot yourself.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
46211 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

I smoke left handed but shoot right.

I write, golf, and bat right handed. I shoot left-handed. My theory is sound.
Posted by The Tom Arnold
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2015
1549 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:09 pm to
Looks like a suicide as there appears to be a suicide note and evidence of chain smoking to the left of the note, which indicates she is smokes with her left hand. In order for there to be splatter on the wall she would have to turn around which is certainly plausible.

ETA: If she was trying to defend herself, she would have been wearing her glasses.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 6:15 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122527 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:10 pm to
Neither. She is not dead, unless you can hold up a cigarette when you are dead.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 6:13 pm
Posted by FlappingPierre
St. George
Member since Nov 2013
5067 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:13 pm to
Neither. Faking it.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32979 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:14 pm to
murder.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 6:16 pm
Posted by retired trucker
midwest
Member since Feb 2015
5093 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:15 pm to
murder

shot from the left to right
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:16 pm to
Could have been facing away from the window.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32433 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:16 pm to
Suicide, she blew her brains out after reading this shitty thread


Where's a picture (not drawing) of a crime scene?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
66855 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:17 pm to
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Murder. She's left handed
That's a direct quote of my FB comment. Thanks for stalking me online.

IMO, the pen is on the left side of the paper, indicating that she's left handed. Also, the angle of the position of the glasses indicates that she took them off and set them down with her left hand. The cigarette is in her left hand, and the cigarettes and ash tray are on the left side of the counter.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:17 pm to
Go ahead and follow her lead for that dumbass post.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122527 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:18 pm to
instead of neither my official answer is staged.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:20 pm to
The man in the picture idiot
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
35690 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:21 pm to
Back, and to the left.
Back, and to the left.

Also...the lamp is unplugged.

But why?
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
3984 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:21 pm to
She was smoking while writing. The cigarette is in her left hand and ash tray to the left, so she was likely writing with her right. The angle of the paper also suggests she is right handed.
Posted by That's BS
Smoothie King Center
Member since Jan 2012
1785 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:23 pm to
Murder. No way the bullet casing would have ejected out of the gun and onto the shelf if she committed suicide as it is staged. It would have ejected the opposite way.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 6:26 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122527 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:29 pm to
Was the other flip flop stolen?
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
6581 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:30 pm to
Smoking with her left hand as she wrote her suicide note with her right. Put the pen down on the left side of the paper has she rotated around clockwise on the stool. Picked the gun up from the table with her right hand. She was turned around on the stool because she didn't want to look at her reflection as she shot herself with the gun in her right hand.

Suicide.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:31 pm to
Anyone else notice that there's a dark reflection in the window/mirror (not positive which one it is)? It looks as if someone is holding a gun, and you can see their shoulder and the side of their head. I'm going with murder.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 6:37 pm
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13494 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:32 pm to
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Murder. No way the bullet casing would have ejected out of the gun and onto the shelf if she committed suicide as it is staged. It would have ejected the opposite way.
I think so too, but there appears to be some randomness in the way shell casings eject. I'm not sure it's possible to say conclusively that the shell casing is inconsistent with a suicide the way the scene appears.

LINK

Shell casing study
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