re: Does lateness make anyone else irrationally angry?

Thoughtlessness comes in many forms and as I get older, it does piss me off more than it should.

I agree with most of this thread but I’ll throw out a counterpoint:

When I’m going somewhere “obligatory”, and I don’t like the people hosting, I feel a want to show up late. Especially if they’re the kind of people to be control freaks over the whole family because they’re the ones hosting on that particular year.

The more tight arse someone is around me, something deep inside me wants to irk the shite out of them. But my wife is different, she would be mortified to be looked at wrong by the bitchy aunt for being 2 minutes late to the gathering.

BUT I agree with what y’all are saying about carelessness, but sometimes these people getting upset are control freaks to the minute. That’s what I’m talking about.

It’s the justification of “I’ll never be able to be on time with everything that has to be done”

That shite pisses me off.

Wake up 30min earlier and you’ll have enough time to complete everything and be where you need to be.

I used to be this person until someone told me they wouldn't hang out with me if it happened again (obviously within reason) because it was rude. It changed how I thought about it, and now I try to be 10 mins early when I can.

I’m actually the opposite when it comes to family and friends.

The older I get the more slack I cut them.

I spent my life worrying about being late. As a result I showed up 10-15 minutes early for everything. The root of this for me personally is not that I don’t want to be rude. It’s that I feel like I don’t have anything else to offer other than being late.

Now I show up on time out of respect. If someone is going to act like an arse because they believe “if you aren’t early, you’re late”, I don’t want to deal with them. And I have enough self respect to know that I haven’t wronged them by not acquiescing to their own self loathing shite.

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Late people can go F themselves. They need their own world. Totally clueless pieces of shite, all of them.

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Yup, that's where I am with them. They don't respect your time.

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We have some family we tell the time we are eating for Thanksgiving/Christmas about 90 minutes prior to the real time because they are NEVER on time.

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Same. We had one complain because they showed up "early" and nobody was there They were still late for the fake time, just early for the real time.

you’re clearly not married

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I am habitually late. Don't know why, it's never my intention, but I am just always late.

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Have you ever heard the phrase, “failing to plan is planning to fail”?

This is similar. You know you’re always late. You’re also not doing anything to mitigate that, so in that way, you are choosing to be habitually late. It is intentional.

I had an 45 year old employee that was chronically late. I had just taken over the managers position and had to counsel him. He was adamant that he was "too old" to be counseled." I told him, "obviously not." The problem was that the day crew couldn't leave without him being there and they had plans just like he did. And, they complained. He said they didn't have any plans. Finally, had to write him up, which in turn, he caused me a lot of internal problems there until I left. Sometimes you can't win.

Homelife - the family meal starts as planned. If you want leftovers, then you can be late as you want.

Completely depends on the circumstances.