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re: Does it matter if you go to a public or private school?

Posted on 10/10/19 at 6:26 am to
Posted by Federal Tiger
Connecticut
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/10/19 at 6:26 am to
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I don't get why $27,000/year Newman would be that much better than something like Mandeville High.


Have you been to Newman lately and walked around their Science facilities? Seen their curriculum? Campus security since incidents a few years ago? Athletic facilities?

There is a good saying about “you get what you pay for”...

I assure you the MHS experience and exposure is far less than that at 1903 Jefferson. But I agree MHS is a great public school....too bad the only options in NO at High school are BFHS and Lusher.

I’m a BFHS graduate, but I can say without a doubt my private education setting and family discipline preparedness for my success after 8th grade.
Posted by LSUisKING
Edgard
Member since Dec 2007
2934 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 6:30 am to
Completely depends on the kid and the parent(s).
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51270 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 6:33 am to
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I mean... a shite school is a shite school, but I personally think a lot of it is what you put into it and parenting. My wife went to a public school. She's a doctor, a few of her high school friends are, others went to Stanford or Brown, and they're all successful. I don't get why $27,000/year Newman would be that much better than something like Mandeville High.




That's right. I also went to public school with people who are doctors and people who went to Ivy League schools or other top schools in the northeast. There really weren't any advantages with private school vs. public school in my hometown.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/10/19 at 6:40 am to
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The difference is your peers and friends


And standards and expectations.

I think probably the biggest difference between privates and publics in Louisiana isn’t the material presented or the baseline ability of the teacher, but the culture of the school. The better private schools in LA put into place rigorous standards and expectations not only for their students but for their teachers and parents which creates a culture that the public schools can’t match.

I agree that parenting is the primary source of academic success but there is definitely a multiplying effect. If only 10% of a student population has parents enforcing academic rigor at home and the school is not reinforcing those values during the day, then even those 10% of kids will struggle. On the other hand, if 90% of a student population has parents enforcing academic rigor at home and the school culture reinforces those values, then even the 10% who don’t have it are going derive a benefit from that culture.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15503 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:00 am to
Depends on the public school and the private. A lot of private schools are just as good or worse than mid to high end public schools. Then you have lottery public schools which can be as good as some of the better private schools. Then you have private schools like Newman and Mccallie that just stomp the frick out of the rest of the schools because that’s where insanely rich people go and they have the best of whatever they can buy.

In the end it comes down to the kid, but rich kids at fancy schools definitely get preferential treatment. It’s why people join frats, who you know and who you are helps.
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 7:03 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48305 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:03 am to
Agree. BRHS is better than the majority of privates in BR but not as good as the high end privates. But after that, with the exception of maybe Lee Magnet, there isn’t a public school that comes near the top half of privates.

The curves definitely overlap, but in favor of the privates.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15742 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:07 am to
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The only major difference that I saw was that coaches


Is this what we are calling teachers these days or is your question 100% concerning sports?
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18435 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:11 am to
It depends on the quality of your education options and the goals you set for your kids. If we can afford it, I’d like to send my kids to a private school. I went to a public school and was a straight A student. I did well in college for the most part, but there were certain areas I just wasn’t ready for. Physics, for example, was very difficult for me. Combine that with working a full time job, I eventually dropped the class. English and math were strong points for me. The advanced sciences were a bitch. I would like my kids to have better college prep than I did. With all that said, though, you can always overcome your circumstances. No matter how difficult.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11070 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:14 am to
Are you talking about High School athletics?
Cause none of that shite matters.
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:15 am to
Gotta have that sticker next to 30A for status.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15503 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:25 am to
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It depends on the quality of your education options and the goals you set for your kids. If we can afford it, I’d like to send my kids to a private school. I went to a public school and was a straight A student. I did well in college for the most part, but there were certain areas I just wasn’t ready for. Physics, for example, was very difficult for me. Combine that with working a full time job, I eventually dropped the class. English and math were strong points for me. The advanced sciences were a bitch. I would like my kids to have better college prep than I did. With all that said, though, you can always overcome your circumstances. No matter how difficult.


You just may not be good at sciences too though. May not have benefitted much from a better school in that area. Sending your kid to a school with a great STEM program doesn't guarantee they will be good at it.


Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:33 am to
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Does it matter if you go to a public or private school?


Depending on where you are, yes.

These days shitty public schools create the necessity for private schools. As an example, most of EBR's public schools rank at the bottom of any good ranking system while most of the schools in the neighboring parishes rank far higher. It's not a coincidence that EBR has far more private schools (it could be argued that the greater population is behind that but that argument breaks down when looking at per-capita enrollment in public vs. private in each parish).
Posted by Space Cadet
Member since Sep 2019
446 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:36 am to
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I’d probably be in the same situation i am know regardless if I finished public or private



You never now how things might have turned out. Hell, I stay awake at night wondering if my life would be less of a shite show if my parents had just sent me to Parkview instead of going on cruises every christmas.
Posted by Big Bill
Down da Bayou
Member since Sep 2015
1384 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:41 am to
South Louisiana public school here. The private school in our area was and still is a joke academically...but they do well in athletics.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:43 am to
As with everything, it depends. There are some really shitty private schools out there, most of them affiliated with religion. There are some really shitty public schools, obviously. But there are also great public and private schools.

Posted by Space Cadet
Member since Sep 2019
446 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:44 am to
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As long as the school is decent, public vs private vs homeschool is the same.



Meh, the odds of banging a teacher are not the same across those three.
Posted by Buddy the Tiger
Member since Nov 2018
106 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:45 am to
It is mostly the parenting IMO.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83556 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:46 am to
I think its like 90% parents/home life and 10% school

Also there are some pretty terrible private schools out there, so let's not act like all private schools are great
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18435 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:47 am to
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You just may not be good at sciences too though. May not have benefitted much from a better school in that area. Sending your kid to a school with a great STEM program doesn't guarantee they will be good at it.


Not to come off as a douche, but I consider myself to be an intelligent person. There are a lot of reasons that I didn’t accomplish certain things in college, and most of that is on me. But there were certain areas in STEM courses that other kids of the same age were better prepared for. I know that because we talked about it. The professor was putting up equations that I had never seen. All of my peers had already seen it in high school. I spent so much time trying to catch up, I just got burnt out.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48471 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:49 am to
It depends on the area. If you are in an upper middle class suburb it probably doesn't matter. If you live in the inner city (most of them), private is probably the better option if you can afford it. There's also the religious factor for a lot of people.

I went to both private and public schools (mostly private). The private school was definitely a more sheltered environment. We still had drugs around and stuff like that but the peer group was better and we far fewer kids from problem homes. The class sizes were a lot smaller too.

9th and 10th grade at the private school I went to were more difficult than 11th and 12th at the public school
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 7:53 am
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