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re: Do you see the job market getting better anytime soon?

Posted on 9/15/25 at 9:19 am to
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30732 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 9:19 am to
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We kick arse in mfg. Just not low level, low margin stuff. For good reason.


Here's the thing about that though: You need the lower level machinist, programming, PLC and circuitry jobs in order for newbies to develop skills to step up into those higher skilled positions.
People fresh out of school aren't ready to tackle the high-level stuff, they need a place to gain practical experience and confidence.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292733 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 9:20 am to
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You need the lower level machinist, programming, PLC and circuitry jobs in order for newbies to develop skills to step up into those higher skilled positions.


We need more OJT and apprenticeships, thats how it used to be done.

Credentialism has fricked up the job market and put so many inept people in places where they dont belong.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
39992 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 9:25 am to
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As opposed to offshoring all domestic industry and production to unfriendly communist empires?


We have the 2nd biggest manufacturing output in the world and produce more than countries 3-7 combined.
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
18964 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 9:25 am to
Our hyper manic tariff policy has a lot of businesses a little gun shy.

Posted by MIKEDATIGER
AUSTIN
Member since Oct 2007
2160 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 9:28 am to
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south Arkansas. The defense contractors are hiring thousands over the next year or two. With no experience, no skills and can pass a piss test, you can start at no less than $22/hour


Any additional information would be greatly appreciated
Posted by MIKEDATIGER
AUSTIN
Member since Oct 2007
2160 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 9:29 am to
Anyone look into FIFO Australia Offshore ??
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
1628 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 9:29 am to
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I'm getting tired of seeing this used as an excuse by large companies as the stock prices continue to soar.



Stock market doesn't reflect the economy as much as it used to IMO.

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It's just a convenient excuse to go retard with hiring freezes, cost cutting, etc ala covid. Everybody figured out that all those cuts


How do you get them to stop then? They're going to keep doing it. I don't see either political party doing anything about it.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92344 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 9:31 am to
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Not under this administration


The admin you voted for faked 2mil jobs
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
23436 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 9:45 am to
My sector is booming. Talent in the issue for me. I’m trying to fill an associate level position and the applicants have been shite -$95-$115k base and I’m getting shite applicants.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30849 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 9:52 am to
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Any additional information would be greatly appreciated

L3 Harris/Aerojet is doing the most and paying the best across the board. They are hiring at all levels. Seems to be best if you can attend a hiring fair, but if you live to far away then apply online.

Lockhead is doing the next most hiring and pay is generally on par with L3 Harris.

General Dynamics will be adding about 300-400 positions over the next year or two.

Raytheon is adding around 100.

L3 Harris will be needing at least 100 engineers and 500 operators over the next two years. Manufacturing experience can help, but they just need reliable workers that will show up and be willing to learn new tasks if needed. If you're a good worker, you can almost guarantee $30/hr within a year or so. That's at the lower end with low skilled employees. All the OT you want.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30849 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 9:53 am to
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MIKEDATIGER

What you do now?
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
3859 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 9:54 am to
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Was thinking about going into healthcare IT


The shift from traditional Medicare (TM) to Medicare Advantage (MA) has been one of the most significant trends in U.S. healthcare, and while it’s appealing to many patients, it’s creating financial and operational strains for healthcare organizations.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70776 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 9:57 am to
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How do you get them to stop then?


Me and you? Can't. Go work somewhere else if you don't like it.

Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
12739 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:02 am to
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I work in IT for a large commercial contractor based in Dalla


H1Bs did this, and will continue to screw us for the foreseeable future. Yes, they're nowhere near as good as I am, but they also get paid 35% of what I do, adjusted for experience. Also, for O&G, 90% of the job postings I get from BP every week are in Pune, as an example. It's hilarious that everyone has a hard on for RTO, yet they continue to offshore the shite out of jobs.

Just remember that the Houston job market for IT/CyberSecurity is way worse than it is in DFW.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
84980 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:05 am to
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Not under this administration



Not under the last admin.

Guess you didnt notice the 900k jobs revised down from Biden.

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The economy added 911,000 fewer jobs than previously estimated in the 12 months ending in March


So 10 months of jobs reported under biden didn't exist.


And this doesn't include all the down revisions in previous years.




This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 10:06 am
Posted by Prawn
Member since Jul 2025
29 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:10 am to
It will get better with a new administration that walks back the tariffs.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
33540 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:39 am to
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Do you see the job market getting better anytime soon?



Always act as if it is shite and save as much as you can.

With that said, I am starting the process of stacking certs and have my first exam next week. You can never rest on your laurels.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12267 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:45 am to
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healthcare IT


You need to understand healthcare to make this jump. The IT that have some sort of healthcare background are so much easier to talk to then the ones that don't have a clue about what we do. "It's not a big deal" to an IT guy doesn't understand the regulations from the alphabet soups we have to deal with.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29092 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:50 am to
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Was thinking about going into healthcare IT


Are you opposed to relocating to Nashville? You can't throw a rock in this city without hitting a healthcare company that has IT positions.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20153 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:00 am to
Depends on what kind of job you're seeking. Craftsmen are in demand.
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