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re: Do you question the history you've been taught in HS and college?
Posted on 7/8/26 at 7:39 am to OWLFAN86
Posted on 7/8/26 at 7:39 am to OWLFAN86
Started 1st grade in 1973 EBRP, LSU ‘85-‘89. History was pretty limited. Louisiana Hx in 7th grade, US and World Hx in high school. Western Civ and La History w Marc Carlton at LSU. No issues w the teaching other than the Lost Cause bs that was snuck in.
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 7:41 am to nola tiger lsu
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. Watch Ken Burns' The American Revolution. Very solid.
I hope you’re trolling.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:09 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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I hope you’re trolling
Not at all. Well done, not slanted, just factual representations. What was wrong with it? Told the brutal realities of that time for both sides. There is literally nothing to say bad about it unless youre blind to learning about history.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:14 am to OWLFAN86
Nope, used to read history books for fun as an elementary school kid.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:14 am to OWLFAN86
I don’t question the history I was taught in the 60s, but I would question the history that is being taught now.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:16 am to nola tiger lsu
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Not at all. Well done, not slanted, just factual representations. What was wrong with it? Told the brutal realities of that time for both sides. There is literally nothing to say bad about it unless youre blind to learning about history.
So you don’t believe everything your teachers taught you but you blindly believe everything that Ken Burns tells you. Interesting.
Let’s start with a simple but important one. That the Six Nations of the Iroquois Confederacy directly inspired Benjamin Franklin’s Albany Plan and the U.S. Constitution.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:18 am to OWLFAN86
Of course.
I dug into primary sources such as journals ans letters a lot when I was in undergrad and grad school. Really helped me understand where the textbooks were lacking. It also destroyed the mythologizing of Good v Evil that we're often taught in high school curriculum.
Had a great professor at Carolina who was willing to kill sacred cows. Even had us contrast some journals and court documents with what a McPherson-written text said, and poke holes in those arguments. Helped to recognize bias and blindspots in authorship. Doris Kearns Goodwin, for example, is a particularly myopic historian.
It's never Right v Wrong. There's always Grey and nuance in every conflict. And sometimes, the side that you more agree with is the one that loses and is humiliated in the textbooks.
I dug into primary sources such as journals ans letters a lot when I was in undergrad and grad school. Really helped me understand where the textbooks were lacking. It also destroyed the mythologizing of Good v Evil that we're often taught in high school curriculum.
Had a great professor at Carolina who was willing to kill sacred cows. Even had us contrast some journals and court documents with what a McPherson-written text said, and poke holes in those arguments. Helped to recognize bias and blindspots in authorship. Doris Kearns Goodwin, for example, is a particularly myopic historian.
It's never Right v Wrong. There's always Grey and nuance in every conflict. And sometimes, the side that you more agree with is the one that loses and is humiliated in the textbooks.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:36 am to OWLFAN86
Not, but I'm old. My daughters went to a private school where the two main history teachers they had were men who not only taught them history and government but also how to think and question things.
My youngest daughter competed in a scholarship competition where part of what they were evaluated on was debating a current event topic. She was shocked that most of the students she was grouped with argued based on emotions, and she was laying out an argument based on the constitution. She was offered a really good scholarship.
My youngest daughter competed in a scholarship competition where part of what they were evaluated on was debating a current event topic. She was shocked that most of the students she was grouped with argued based on emotions, and she was laying out an argument based on the constitution. She was offered a really good scholarship.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:12 am to OWLFAN86
Should same apply to religion (all of them)?
Truth is center of post. Tell me the truth. Kidding.
Truth is center of post. Tell me the truth. Kidding.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:57 am to OWLFAN86
The history I learned in high school helped me learn to love my country and gave me a background knowledge, focusing mainly, but not exclusively, on the more positive aspects of our history.
The history I learned in college was in much greater detail and covered topics warts and all. It did not lessen my love of country, but helped me understand it more, and helped me understand human nature more. It also inspired me to continue learning about our history.
While I did not major in history, by the time I graduated, I had enough hours to satisfy a masters in history.
The history I learned in college was in much greater detail and covered topics warts and all. It did not lessen my love of country, but helped me understand it more, and helped me understand human nature more. It also inspired me to continue learning about our history.
While I did not major in history, by the time I graduated, I had enough hours to satisfy a masters in history.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 10:26 am to SpotCheckBilly
Question everything.
I don't believe 100% from any source. I must see factual documentation and no anonymous sources.
Especially in the last 30yrs are so. They are trying to skew history and it's working
I don't believe 100% from any source. I must see factual documentation and no anonymous sources.
Especially in the last 30yrs are so. They are trying to skew history and it's working
Posted on 7/8/26 at 10:28 am to OWLFAN86
Yes. I question the very idea that Jesus, Muhammad, Abraham, or the Buddha existed at all.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 10:31 am to OWLFAN86
Do you question your lack of self awareness?
Posted on 7/8/26 at 10:34 am to Junky
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Midway being the turning point of the pacific when it really was Guadalcanal.
They lost 3 carriers at midway that they couldn’t replace fast enough. It was the turning point.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 10:34 am to OWLFAN86
No. Got mine before it went around the bend and when even the openly Communist professors invited challenge to their positions and urged independent research by their students.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 10:36 am to Bullfrog
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Most people do not realize the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution are in opposition to one another.
One lets you take freedom and the other allows it to be taken.
That is some of dumbest shite I’ve ever heard
Posted on 7/8/26 at 11:07 am to bayouvette
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I don't believe 100% from any source. I must see factual documentation and no anonymous sources.
Especially in the last 30yrs are so. They are trying to skew history, and it's working
There is certainly a trend toward a revisionist approach to history in the past couple of decades that favors an application of today's liberal social justice sensibilities to judge people who existed long ago. I think it is fairer to judge people within the context of their times.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 11:10 am to Schutzhund
Can you be more specific
Posted on 7/8/26 at 11:12 am to OWLFAN86
The history classes I took in college gave me the tools to be able to think for myself and research for myself, so yes I questioned everything but I learned to do that in college as I minored in history.
In high school I did not question much, but my Mom would on some things she saw me bring home so in a way I did.
In high school I did not question much, but my Mom would on some things she saw me bring home so in a way I did.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 12:33 pm to Mung
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La History w Marc Carlton at LSU.
Great class, great professor. Took that in 84/85 school year.
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